This is the night of the upsets?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Thecheckjab, Dec 23, 2023.


  1. Thecheckjab

    Thecheckjab Active Member Full Member

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    I see many upsets happening today.

    Jarrell Miller is 330 lbs tank, who has very good skills and is durable. The guy had over 50+ kickboxing fights and 20+ pro boxing fights. It will be very hard for Dubois to keep Miller off who is coming forward. I don't think Dubois has the footwork to run 10 rounds, he is not Ali. My prediction is that Miller breaks Dubois down and wins by TKO in round 6.

    Joseph Parker vs Deontay Wilder is interesting. If Wilder doesn't KO Parker in the first 3 rounds, then the match will favor Parker who is better skilled. Parker could go to the Wilders body and the boomsquad would be exhausted in the midrounds. Wilder is 38 so its questionable if he can go full pace at this stage. Parker is only 31 so he should be in his prime now and he had good training camp with Andy Lee. I'm taking Parker by KO in round 8.

    Anthony Joshua has shown to lost his killer instinct. He avoids trading shots and wants to be on the backfoot. I'm expecting Wallin to outbox Anthony Joshua. Wallin just came from good win over Gassiev, so his confidence is on the roof. I'm expecting Wallin to move well and land so many jabs that he should win on paper if it goes to scorecards. I'm taking Wallin by UD, but robbery can happen too because Joshua is the cashcow.
     
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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm backing Miller and Parker but think AJ takes it.
     
  3. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    AJ will edge Wallin for me, Wilder smokes Parker, and I think Miller beats Dubois but I would hardly describe him as any good. Now I don’t think he’s on nearly as much juice as before I think he’ll continue to be rubbish.
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I think you only have to look at where these fights sit in their respective resumes to get some idea of how likely the "upset" is...

    Wallin is okay, but his career highlights are a poor version of Gassiev (who's never done much at heavy) and doing "okay" against rusty Fury... On AJ's resume, he's not even top 5 - and okay Joshua has declined, but not *that* much - the upset/robbery is unlikely.

    Parker would go in as Wilder's best win - it's brave of Wilder to take it given the inactivity, atrophy and questions that should be asked about his age and how much the Fury losses have taken out of him... The upset (Parker win) is not entirely unlikely - Wilder could get the KO, but it's not a sure thing.

    I don't even know what the upset is supposed to be for Miller Vs Dubois - ones a hypejob prospect with an elite cowardice game (quitting, deliberate lowblows, etc) and the other is a sumoweight PED cheat with limited achievements behind him... I don't know who I'd expect to win, nor do I massively care.
     
  5. Thecheckjab

    Thecheckjab Active Member Full Member

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    Is that Nichols in your avatar? Who wins Wilder vs The Worm rematch?
     
  6. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The way I have seen other picks going I don't actually see how Miller beating Dubois can be an upset. I want Dubois to knock the PED cheat out tbh but wouldn't bet on how the fight goes.

    Parker beating Wilder would be an upset as I don't think much of Parker. He's squandered his early promise a few years back.

    Wallin beating AJ would only be an upset if AJ fights like he did in the first Ruiz fight.

    Demori going the distance with Hrgovic would be an upset.

    I like Lyndon Arthur but if Bivol doesn't get him out there in 6 I would consider it a disappointing performance from Bivol.
     
  7. Robotman9000

    Robotman9000 New Member Full Member

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    If you only value KOs you might as well just write Bivol off now, he's one of the few boxers in the sport to not train for the KO.
     
  8. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is - the man who was robbed of a KO victory over the bronze bomber. I think the big worm would smoke the Alabama slapper in any rematch, there’s a reason Finkel had to arrange his arrest and keep him well clear of Wilder.
     
  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Miller opened as a 6/1 underdog but now he's 21/10, so there's a huge discrepancy in how the experts see the fight and how the public see the fight. Dubois should be much faster at 94 lbs lighter, he's got a huge advantage in one punch power and he's slightly taller. I wouldn't be shocked to see him quit again though.

    Parker hasn't stopped any of his 11 best opponents (including Cojanu, Fa and cruiser Massey), he lost a UD to Whyte and got A-side decisions over Ruiz and Chisora 1. I think he's being a bit underrated (I've got a 25/1 punt on Parker 1-6) but Wilder has proven to be a much better fighter and I strongly favour him to win by KO.

    It's hard for Joshua to lose here given that boxer Wallin's not stopped anyone of note and Joshua's a good enough pointfighter to keep it close enough to get an A-side decision if need be.

    Of the others on the card, I like Kabayel for the 8/1 upset. Makhmudov looked terrible against 2022 Takam and Kabayel schooled Chisora back in 2017, who of course went on to bomb a 2018 Takam out.
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wouldn't consider Miller beating Dubois as an upset I think most people on this forum would have Miller as the favourite.
     
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  11. Diddy

    Diddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First half the card is nothing but squash jobs. Maybe the last 3 fights have a surprise.
     
  12. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Active Member Full Member

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    Why did they match Hrgovic with a bum?
     
  13. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Classic keep busy job...

    He needs to be fighting and for obvious reasons wants onto the Saudi payday gravytrain - at the same time, he doesn't want to risk losing his mando status just when it's looking like it might actually be useful soon.
     
  14. Thecheckjab

    Thecheckjab Active Member Full Member

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    Dubois was 5/1 favorite when the odds came
     
  15. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Kabayel just beat Mak. There's 1.