The Heavyweight Division Looking Worse And Worse.......

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Furys resume takes a massive blow for struggling and being dropped vs Wilder 4 times who just got dominated by a B class Heavyweight in Parker.

    Wilder's power looks overrated now not being able to trouble the first solid chinned fighter he fought even Whyte dropped Parker and hurt him.

    Fury struggling vs an MMA fighter......

    Who looks more overrated now ?
     
  2. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Parker avoided and nullified Wilder’s right hand. He fought the perfect fight. Wilder’s power is legit. You can’t take that away from him.
     
  3. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Both of them were prematurely put above everybody else because they fought eachother.
    Who's to say Wilder wouldn't lose to the likes of Dillian Whyte? Who's to say Fury wouldn't lose to Parker? People just assumed Wilder and Fury were above them, without trying to make them prove it. That's why in the recent years I've come to like AJ more than Wilder and Fury. because he proved he was a top guy, by fighting and beating other top guys. Wilder fought one guy in Ortiz and was put at the top, even though there was no sure fire way that anyone could've known he was above a Parker.
     
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  4. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    How has it taken a blow when it’s clear he’s now a shot and over the hill fighter lol

    when your 38 years old, took a big beating by Fury and then fight 1 round in 2 years… this is what can happen

    Fighters get old.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Parker is the only fighter hes fought with a solid chin no one was making excuses for Wilder prior to this fight when he was a massive favourite.....Wilder just got exposed end of he can't fight on backfoot against a capable Heavyweight and his skills are poor.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Meh. Wilder was always a bum. Now we can cycle him out.

    Any Fury's loss is AJ's gain, and thus, Usyk's gain. It is clear that the the Joshua-Parker-Whyte-Povetkin-Ruiz-Usyk matchups were for the legit title, and the Fury-Wilder-Ortiz stuff was just minor league...triple A ball.

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/deontay-wilder-is-the-minor-league-champ.559905/

    I think the division got a little better tonight. First step to recovery after the Fury-Ngannou fiasco.
     
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  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course I can Wilders first fight against a guy with a solid chin and he couldn't do anything nor could his power bail him out.
     
  8. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That is why they only fight one cherry picked opponent every year and a half. If they fought twice a year against top ten guys they'd get found out quickly.
     
  9. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Parker’s chin had **** all to do with it, Wilder barely threw a right hand and when he did his timing was so off he missed by metres.

    He can no longer pull the trigger at this stage of his career.

    Father Time. Over the hill.
     
  10. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    But Wlad's age didn’t factor in Fury's victory?
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury went life and death with two guys who can't box by this judgement

    I guess Usyk will play with him! poor Fury!

    Boxing really is the harshest sport. One day you're the man the next you're worthless who never was any good.
     
  12. drenlou

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    It's a wasteland at the moment.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Wilders biggest achievement is convincing everyone he would have retrospectively beaten AJ.

    He's shite.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course it does what ? Wilder's power has been largely exaggerated by fighting cans. And he got over hyped for flooring Fury who's chin isn't that great himself Furys been floored by Pajkic who had 4 KOs and Cruiserweight Cunningham who isn't big puncher.

    It exposes major flaws in Wilder he can't fight on backfoot against a capable Heavyweight, and his power couldn't bail him out against the first fighter he fought with a solid chin.
     
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    To be fair… Wlad was active fighting twice a year, was carrying momentum (undefeated for 10+ years) and wasn’t coming off the back of a bad beating.

    Also had no issue pulling the trigger when fighting AJ 18’months later.

    I’d say there’s a clear difference based on that vs the Wilder that turned up tonight