2/3 time world champion

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Bfcad, Dec 24, 2023.


  1. Bfcad

    Bfcad Active Member Full Member

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    Why is it in the last couple of years this is being sold as almost superior to being a unbeaten World Champion?.....all it means in 99% of cases is that you have been beaten on either one or multiple occasions
     
  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Hearn is great at this. You have to give him credit
     
  3. Bfcad

    Bfcad Active Member Full Member

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    But general sports fans just see straight through this and laugh.
     
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    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. unfriendlyorchid

    unfriendlyorchid Probably moaning about Sky Sports Full Member

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    Agreed. In the era of rematch clauses it literally means "lost but won rematch where cards were stacked in his favour",

    Not a Hearn innovation though, latest in a long line of clever descriptions.

    Lennox Lewis was often introduced as "one of the few men who has beaten every man he faced" - a nice bit of sophistry for "got KTFOd by Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall".

    Fury's "lineal champion" stuff too.
     
  6. Quickeyg

    Quickeyg Really really really don't care. Full Member

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    Do they? Sports fans can be gullible beyond belief. Edd is repeating/pushing his narratives.
     
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  7. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And he knows that by saying something once, 100 outlets will repeat it and suddenly casuals are convinced.
     
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  8. Bfcad

    Bfcad Active Member Full Member

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    To a certain extent your correct, the hard of thinking ifl/boxing social follower types probably swallow it, but in the mainstream its rejected and just another reason to add to large pile of reasons that the sport is in decline. Most people with half a brain, rightly so hard turned their back on boxing
     
  9. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One of my best friends watches all the big cards, like last night, but outside of that his total exposure to boxing is the Bunce (formerly Costello and Bunce) podcast, and what he hears from other similar people. Like last night I asked if he'd seen Dubois, his answer was "oh aye, against that fat mess, watched the highlights on youtube". Couldn't even name Miller.

    So his sum total opinion is that Usyk is levels above most, Fury can beat anyone when he can be bothered, Joshua is a chinny robot, etc. He barely knew who Wallin was (didn't remember the Fury fight) so read nothing into last night's run-out. He's probably more right than some people I know that watch every Hearn comment end to end :)
     
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  10. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anthony Joshua will have a decent chance of becoming a three time Vacant World Heavyweight Belt Champion when these are split next year.

    Would not be surprised if Hearn pushes hard for him to face Washed Up Wilder or Shyte Whyte for a vacant belt.
     
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  11. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is subjective. Losing to Usyk and then becoming a champ again is probably better than not fighting Usyk and beating Chisora Whyte and Ngannou
     
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  12. Bfcad

    Bfcad Active Member Full Member

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    Who's not fighting Usyk?
     
  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I meant had AJ not fought Usyk and fought those 3 he still would be a champ. So there is some merit in regaining a title when you lose to the best
     
  14. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We're into the realms of "if your auntie had balls" in this thread, but if AJ had not been subject to Usyk's WBO mandatory then we'd have had an undisputed with Fury instead of his run-outs against Whyte and Chisora, and probably Fury retired by now, one way or the other.
     
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  15. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This isn't a new thing at all
     
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