Deontay is way over the hill and it showed , should retire and he will be a first ballot HOF

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  1. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Kelly Oubre can average 16ppg on shrooms. Manu Ginobili is probably best known for looking like Bronson Pinchot.
     
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    how many rings oubre has?
     
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    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With Duhaupas and Ortiz being the best names on his record, I am not sure he deserves to be first ballot HOFer
     
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    Same amount as Manu without ol' Timmay. Manu would've fizzled out like Bronson's career did if he had to carry the same load.

    Pretty damned good sixth man, though!
     
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    What no one is talking about is Wilder's chin. He was very gun shy. Maybe that is why he looked so bad. There were several times Parker landed on him that seem to make Wilder think twice about throwing.
     
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    That’s what makes his 18 impressive ,he had teammates that use to take more shots than him on always championship caliber team.
    Was top 3 player on such elite team , actually one of the best teams in modern NBA history and his playoff numbers are even better .
    Wilder isn’t even Draymon Green who is also 4 x NBA champion , but he is just a poor man’s Manu :D:D:D:D.
    As I said Wilder is Kendrick Perkins in his prime.
     
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    ...You mean he had teammates that were better than him? He joined the perfect situation and rode Timmay's and Pop's coattails to a couple of rings. His stats and overall ability are nothing worth remembering, and you should consider changing your username, honestly. You can do a lot better than Balki Bartokomous in the year 2023.

    Wilder being top 3 in his entire divison is more impressive than Manu (maybe) being top 3 on his own team. LOL
     
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    if Manu’s abilities nothing worth remembering you either DKSAB or should change your screen name to StevieHasDementia.
    Manu had teammates that were better than him , but he also had opposition that he couldn’t duck unlike Windmill.
    Who is Wilder’s best win???
     
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    Unless you are Santos Laciar, Jose Luis Ramirez, Marvin Johnson or a handful of Puerto Ricans
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Are you talking about "Ginooooobiliiiiii!"?

    He deserves to be in the basketball one.
     
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    Usyk and Fury are the only HoF fighters post Wlad in the HW division right now. Although Joshua has good chance with big fights ahead and solid resume behind him. No one else is close.
     
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    Joshua has way way better resume than Fury
     
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    Fury is hall of joke. His resume is beyond garbage, and he hasn't fought the top 10 guys in the division regularly.

    He somehow managed to miss so many good fighters in both eras he was in.
     
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    But was Wilder actually top 3 at any point?

    It was always assumed so because he had a belt... But even without Usyk and Fury on the scene it's questionable whether he really was because of how limited his resume was and because he either ducked other potential candidates (Joshua, Povetkin, Whyte) or lost convincingly enough that there's doubt he'd have ever beaten them (Parker).
     
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    ??? ...Yes, he was top 3. We can't go back and retroactively change his ranking. LMAO

    Parker was never considered in his league before Saturday night. Who did he beat?
     
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