AJ vs. Fury, who wins?

I think a prime Fury edges it but that Fury has long gone. We're now left with the shell of a man who spends more time making garbage reality TV shows than training.

While Joshua still seems driven and motivated.

No way does Fury fight Joshua now.

 

Then Fury goes out there rips Usyk to shreds and everyone back tracks and sucks him off.

Classic Fury love hate cycle.

 

What kind of logic is this?

 

Fury wins.

 

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Anthony "I'm not a 12 round fighter" Joshua couldn't beat Tyson Fury if his life depended on it.

 

Fury, Usyk, Wilder and AJ really have relegated Boxing to a hobby.
If they all got serious: AJ folds to Fury due to anxiety - Usyk wins a few rounds from Fury and goes down to a body punch. - Wilder already lost twice and needs to retire.

 

Fury may have looked rubbish against Ngannou and Joshua destroyed Wallin, a guy who gave Fury a lot of trouble, but I still back Tyson. I think it would still be hard, but at his best I think Fury beats them all.

 

Please commit seppuku.

 

The logic that a guy who smashes a guy who makes another guy go life and death with him probably beats that guy, especially when one of that other guy's two good wins just got whitewashed by a guy who got soundly beaten by the first guy mentioned.

 

If we compare Fury at his best and Joshua at his best then Fury wins all day.

Fury has hit and miss performances I don't think it's right to compare Fury at his worst he fights to the level of his opponents.

Joshua can win but it will probably be Joshua's best.

 

Really hope we get to see this.

The one thing I'm pretty sure of is that Fury will box him. He's too smart to trade with AJ and Joshua is too strong for Fury to manhandle. Not as strong as Ngannou, but still too strong. Don't know if he'll be succesfull, though. Depends on how dogged Joshua is I think. If Fury starts well and gets him to start doubt himself and hesitate he should take it.

But if AJ applies smart consistent pressure and doesn't let up even if he falls behind, I'm pretty sure he'll find openings and really put it to Fury. In that scenario I favour Joshua.

It will be interesting to see if the excellent counter ability he showed against Wallin carries over to other opponents. Because if he can make Fury hesitate with his jab, he's going to bring it home. Fury must win the jabbing contest, otherwise he's done.

Very hard to call, but leaning slightly toward AJ.

 

Yet in another thread you pick Ruiz to destroy Wilder, even though Wilder has done far better against most of their common opponents.

 

I agree.

 

I don't think anyone said Joshua was physically shot, the criticism was one of mentality.

Contrast this to Fury, who does indeed look physically shot. He got dropped by Ngannou, it happens, but to be unable to manage the fight against a debutant is troubling. Whether he took him lightly or not, once he picked himself up off the canvas, he should have been more than capable of showing what it means to be a boxing world champion. That he couldn't do that should be a massive red flag.

Drinking and taking drugs as a mid-30s athlete is not really the best idea when you have already put your body through the ringer inside the ring (Wilder trilogy) and outside it (ballooning up in weight). To me personally, it looks like the Wilder trilogy took a lot out of both of them. So, following up a stylistically favourable match-up against Whyte, with opponents like Chisora and then Ngannou (smh)...tells me they are managing his decline and trying to make sure he makes it in one piece to undisputed.

He isn't the fighter from 2020. That version isn't coming back. So yeah, I think Joshua handles him at this stage of their careers. One has lived the life, one hasn't.

Of course, this is just opinions, and I could very well be wrong, but I don't see where any optimism is coming from.

 

Completely flawed logic, for one the fights were years apart,secondly same logic as the triangle theory Foreman destroyed Frazier and Norton who both beat Ali but lost to him.Leonard beat Hearns and Hagler who both beat Duran but lost to him,I could go on but we know this is boxing and it happens .