How would Wilder vs Ruiz have gone instead?

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  1. Mark Anthony

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    How many to 10 heavies do you think Wilder can beat?
     
  2. Mark Anthony

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    Wilder is easier to hit than Ortiz who boxed his ears off in their rematch before getting sloppy.
     
  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Depends. Ruiz inactivity is even worst than Wilder's. Since AJ 2, Ruiz has literally 2 matches. And that is 2 matches in 4 years, which is absolutely terrible.

    And i haven't been impress with any of the 2 version of Ruiz after AJ.
    That was Ruiz pinnacle, he is as much as done with the sport, as Wilder is.
     
  4. Mark Anthony

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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz is also easier to hit than Ortiz. Ruiz was also getting his ears boxed off besides the knockdowns

    Ruiz is also 5 foot 11

    Ruiz is also borderline retired and pricing himself out against everyone. He sucks just as much
     
  6. Mark Anthony

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    Getting his ears boxed off till the first knockdown and by a superior boxer to Wilder who just proved he can`t punch while moving laterally.
     
  7. SmackDaBum

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    Also ruiz footspeed and reach sux. It would have been similar to Wilder Stiverne.
     
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  8. Finkel

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    Hmm, difficult to say. I thought Ruiz v Wilder in early 2023 was the obvious fight to make. It was close to a 50-50 fight, but I gave Ruiz the edge.

    Both have been very inactive (thanks PBC...). But Wilder is coming off two KO losses to Fury and a 1 round KO win over Helenius. Not really good preparation.

    The WBC called for it, Wilder wanted to play A-side shenanigans, and seemingly priced himself out. We Be Corrupt instead of saying, no this is the mandated final eliminator, so it's 50-50 as in the rules, dropped Ruiz in their rankings, and kept Wilder at #1. smh

    I would still like to see the fight. But I would prefer to see Ruiz v Parker in a rematch.
     
  9. AngryBirds

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    Ruiz taking AJ's punches also bodes well for him being able to withstand Wilders. That said if he gets up close and goes to the body which he will likely do as well as throw temple shots, then that's a wrap for Wilder. Wilder can't deal with Ruiz's attack speed and aggressiveness up close. In fact when Wilder is in a corner he just gets beat even when trying to defend. We've seen that in the Parker and Fury fights that he struggles getting other dudes off him when he can't 1HKO them. He looked almost as bad as Bowe when Golata had him against the ropes.

    Besides, Ruiz would put some of that fat on those pencil legs of his when they clinch and just like with Fury, it will wear Wilder down over the rounds which will degrade his punching power.
     
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  10. Mark Anthony

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    Ruiz has quicker hands than Stiverne.
     
  11. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Doesnt matter when he cant reach him.
     
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  12. Mark Anthony

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    I don`t think Wilder is a top 10 heavy right now.
     
  13. SmackDaBum

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    He would still beat Ruiz.
     
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  14. SmackDaBum

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    Also. Go watch Arreola Stiverne and compare it with Arreola Ruiz.

    Stiverne and Ruiz are similar. See how Stiverne KOed Arreola and compare it with how Ruiz KOed Joshua. Both short fat and slow but dangerous with the counters. I favor Wilder.
     
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  15. Babality

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    Unsure. Ruiz was getting put on his ass by shot Arreola. I think it might have been right hands too.