Boxing Conspiracy Theories

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  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I saw the pictures, there was no touching though.
     
  2. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    Not related to boxing but involves Mickey Rourke, he was friends with Black Sun Ensemble guitarist Jesus Acedo, the band sacrificed a goat at burning man and went into hiatus because of the public outcry

    But then..."Mickey Rourke, a close friend to Jesus Acedo at the time, was urged by friends and family to visit Acedo in his dreams, embodying the dark angel, compelling him to resume writing" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_Ensemble

    The day before 9/11 they played a live show, with a guy named/that called himself "Otto Terrorist" on drums

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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

    Actually, I remember Fightnews, back when it was a paper rag you got in the mail, printed that this was true. Dunno. I've seen the pics, too.
     
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  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The spiked orange from the second fight between Harold Johnson and Julio Mederos.
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have identified the one person ever who could honestly say that Mickey Rourke was at the center of his wildest dreams.

    And poor Otto … I hope he had an agent who was kind enough to suggest a name change right around Sept. 12. Must have been tough finding work for a while.

    If it had been a morning gig on 9/11, at least he would have had an alibi when police were questioning known Terrorists.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Had to look that one up. I guess Foreman should have claimed it was an orange instead of his water that was spiked in Zaire.

    The governor actually shut down boxing in Philly for 90 days after the incident so convinced were people that Harold took a dive. But he didn’t halt fruit sales. Interesting.
     
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  7. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Cus was not single. Cus was in a relationship with Camille Ewald and they lived together for 25 years until Cus died. I have never heard of any accusation from anybody so it sounds like B.S
    I did read somewhere that Jim Jacobs was possibly in the closet but Iv never heard anything about Cus. Sounds like your trolling.
     
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  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Have no idea what the origins of that were or if they was any truth to the rumors, but I definitely remember reading/hearing about Cus possibly being gay and his marriage being one of convenience long before the internet was here to spread such things.

    Doesn’t matter anyway, but the poster to whom you are replying wasn’t making it up. It was definitely out there (no pun intended).
     
  9. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    What I am referring to as B.S is that Cus would sleep with boys in the same bed. I have never heard of any accusation. Being called gay back then meant you had haters and Cus had a lot of haters. But in the bed with boys, I have never heard of that.
     
  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not boys, but the pro fighters, at least he did that with Floyd Patterson according to the writer Gay Talese, it sounds made up if you ask me.

    I would not believe Gay Talese ... I have my reasons regarding other stuff he wrote that I don´t believe to be accurate, just me.

    To me, the whole thing about Cus is totally BS, and out of nowhere, and the story about Floyd sounds made up.

    https://deadspin.com/blackmail-sexual-obsession-fight-fixing-behind-the-w-30777471
    " At other training camps, they'd seen D'Amato actually sleep in the same bed with Floyd. Whatever his explanations, D'Amato's actions seemed to go beyond propriety. He seemed obsessed with his fighter, but what was the source of his obsession? Was the guy a genius or was he half-mad? Or was there something else?

    "I remember a story that Patterson told me," author Gay Talese, who knew both Patterson and D'Amato well, once said. "I got the impression that D'Amato had a sexual thing for Patterson—not that Patterson reciprocated. Patterson told me he was lying in bed and D'Amato was lying next to him, slipped perhaps into bed, I don't know. It was a training camp, you know. Prizefighters in training camp are intimately open, not sexually, but you are naked, you are free, there is a lot of openness. But this one time in bed, D'Amato had his foot on Patterson's foot, sort of playing with his toes."
     
  11. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Don King and/or Bob Arum had something to do with the legal issues that Harold Smith was charged with and convicted of.
     
  12. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Thanks for the clarification. I was under the assumption you were speaking of the youngsters including tyson that lived in Cus's 14 room home.
    I would have never pictured Cus creeping in the middle of the night while butt naked and swooping into the bed of Patterson. lol
     
  13. 20thCenturyBox

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    Just like Wladimir Klitschko was poisoned before he fought Lamon Brewster.
     
  14. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    I recently read one. In 2003, Nikolay Valuev's promoter - Oleg Shalaev - was murdered. Recently, some 20 years later, hitman confessed that He "eliminated" him on the order from Valuev himself.
     
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  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I concur. The way Ali made that monumental effort in the last round should have convinced even the most cynical or stupid that he was trying to stop Spinks.
     
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