Parker Would Always Beat Wilder. Wilder Would Always Beat Joshua

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    We're all entitled to our own opinions, but this is nonsense IMHO - it seems there's just no amount of evidence that will persuade Wilder fanboys that he wasn't all that ... Then again, that's what Wilder wanted, avoiding anyone remotely difficult for the vast majority of his career was a great way of achieving it.
     
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  2. Joeywill

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    It is a factor when you are constantly moving because of the threat of his power. Ortiz and Fury showed this
     
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    Joshua did not comfortably beat Parker. I watched that fight again the last day.
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua has almost no head movement. Stylistically its a problem vs Wilder
     
  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not being a fanboy it's making a pick on a fantasy fight
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua's faced big punchers before and taken there punches and continued to win. Wlad for me hits harder than Wilder and he took a flush right hand off Wlad. Ruiz caught him with a counter mid combo when Joshua was looking to finish him and it's the shots you don't see coming that mess you up the most. Wilder doesn't exchange like that, he'd never be able to catch Joshua with a counter mid exchange.

    How does he even throw the right hand when being backed up? We've seen it multiple times in his fights, Washington, Fury 2, Parker, when he's being backed up the right hand is not a factor, it's only when he's allowed to plant his feet that the right hand is delivered with power.

    Against Washington the moment he decided not to be put on the back foot by the jabs of Washington, he KO'ed him. Same in the Ortiz fights, the moment Ortiz's gas tank emptied and slowed it allowed Wilder to plant his feet and end the fight.

    Wilder's defence is based on reacting to his opponents and creating distance by backing up or leaning back which takes away his right hand. Joshua would back him up and never allow Wilder's right hand to be a factor. Maybe if Wilder could take him late and Joshua tires then he can get the time to plant and fire the right hand but lets be honest Joshua likely takes him apart early and Wilder never gets that opportunity to uncork a fight ending right hand.
     
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    Was it closer than the official cards, yes but let's not pretend the fight was close or that Parker was ever in the fight. Joshua proved he was a level above Parker. So I still think it was a comfortable victory for Joshua.
     
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    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    With respect, it's a position that requires such bias to take that it's difficult not to regard it as a fanboy pick.
     
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    I agree with alot of what you are saying but I still favor Joshua. Wilder is a nasty fighter for exposing Joshuas flaws but the same goes for Joshua against Wilder. Sure Joshua lacks a bit in chin, head movement and engine compared to Parker but he has power, strength, combinations to make up for it, also a better killer instinct.

    That is why i wanna see this fight for me its 60-40 Joshua but I still wanna see it.

    Why the hell did Wilders handlers take on Parker? That is a guy alot of people have been saying for years would expose Wilders flaws... they should have gone the Ruiz route instead. Did Eddie Hearn pay fat Andy to not put his gloves on or what happened there?!
     
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    Fury moved towards Wilder in his second and third clashes vs Wilder, Deontay can`t punch while moving.
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    A bunch of nonsenses. The moment you say AJ doesn't move his head, it's where all end.
    Just from few days ago:
    [url]https://youtube.com/shorts/W00P2wuGFg0?si=y5bPsQ6NK7jRBH2P[/url]

    This is literally AJ special. Go rewatch any of AJ fights and tell me how he doesn't move his head again.
    Wilder is an easy pray for AJ. And main reason for that is, cause AJ has a high guard. Malik Scott was talking how they didn't expect Parker to come with a high guard, as he usually have his left hand low, and that surprise them.
    High Guard, and good luck Wilder to ever land that right hand. AJ is one of the best in catching punches and throwing vicious counters.
    AJ is also better boxer than Parker, and has better cardio.
    Whoever think that Parker have better cardio than AJ, needs a reality check.

    Every single version i see to date of AJ will beat Wilder. And the first big punch AJ land on Wilder it's over.
    And before you say some nonsenses that Wilder will land first, think again. Wilder can't set his right hand, even if his life depends on it. He telegraph it badly, and anyone skillful enough that study him enough will know how to deal with it.

    AJ is setting his punches and it's 100x time better boxer than Wilder. They are not even in the same category.
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Bro and don't make me laugh about the gas tank. AJ has better gas tank than 99% of the division. He throw 650 punches against Oleksandr Usyk in the first fight.
    AJ survive 24 rounds with Usyk, if he didn't have a good gas he would have been stopped.
    Also AJ is explosive puncher, who put everything into literally every punch his throw, and this takes a lot more energy than throwing "slap" arm punches.
    AJ also didn't break a sweat dancing around Ruiz for 12 rounds, and jabbing and right hand his head off. He barely clinches at all, unlike others, who supposedly have good gas tank, but need to clinch every 2 seconds.
     
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  13. Joeywill

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    I think Wilder hits harder than Wlad but both are huge punchers. I think a younger Wlad would have knocked out Anthony Joshua
     
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    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Also does people realize that Wallin was almost 240 pounds against AJ, and AJ punches was literally throwing him around the ring. He was like a drunk man.
    Otto has a top chin, and was never stopped, hell never been KD in his life.

    The moment AJ connect with that big left hook or right hand on 213 skinny legs Wilder, he is going straight to the hospital.
    People really have no clue what the heck they are talking, do they ?
     
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  15. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont think so. Just think Wilder is a tough matchup for Joshua. Well should say was.