Parker Would Always Beat Wilder. Wilder Would Always Beat Joshua

Whyte may have been limited but he hit hard, especially with the left hook - much bigger puncher than Ortiz for example.

Povetkin had heavy hands too.

That, in my book, makes three that hit harder than anyone Wilder ever fought... That may be why Wilder wanted no part of any of them, to say nothing of Joshua himself.

 

He was, and when Povetkin popped for the russki equivalent of a redbull Wilder latched onto the golden excuse to avoid him hard, saying he wouldn't fight drugs cheats... Only to go on to fight Ortiz and Fury some point of principle!

As for Whyte, Wilder made it clear he had no interest in fighting him - he was next in line for a long time and kept getting swerved... If I recall correctly, Wilder called Whyte the dirt on his shoes.
I think Wilder could see that Whyte (like Povetkin) was just too risky for him - just like Povetkin, Whytes resume was straight up better than his own and he had the power to hurt him badly...

I think Wilder knew that in both cases there was a strong possibility that he'd get beaten and quite probably badly hurt.

 

If Wilder fought somebody who would actually benefit him after losing to Fury instead of fighting a tailor made, no defense, glass jawed bum he may have been better prepared for Parker. Instead, he decided to pick the easiest guy he could knockout that had a name in order to trick his deluded fanbase into thinking he was still an elite level knockout artist.

 

See this is what makes you look like a fanboy... Whether you are one or not.

So first you back Wilder to beat Joshua, even though Joshua's much more proven than Wilder ever was (as well as being more skilled, equipped with a better chin and a harder puncher than the guys who have hurt Wilder)...

Then you do the same for Whyte - who not only has a much better resume than Wilder (including a UD win over the guy who 12-0'd Deontay), a come-forward style that Wilder struggles with and way more punching power than the guys who hurt Wilder.

To back Wilder over Whyte you'd have to be overrating Wilder, underrating Whyte or both... I have always thought he'd knock Wilder out, and that Wilder has always known it (which is why he didn't want to fight him).

 

Grammatical nitpick...

IMHO should be "into still thinking he was an elite level knockout artist"

In truth he was never elite level, IMHO.

 

He just thinks that Wilder would win. Even @Brighton bomber favors Wilder simply because Whytes chinnier and cement footed, not that Wilders "better"

 

They're both chinny, both have crap footwork... both limited in multiple ways... But Whytes clearly more proven.

I'm just saying if you consistently pick the less proven fighter, it looks like fanboyism.

 

It's moreso a styles problem. Many people can see Wilder winning via superior reach and speed. For proven Wilders done better against common opposition and vice versa, the gap is not significant in that regard

Also Whytes definitely chinnier

 

I don't think it's a styles thing - Wilder likes time and space and Whyte wouldn't have let him have it.

And I disagree - they're both chinny...
The punch that Pov popped up with to knock Whyte out would've knocked Wilder out too. And the Fury KO of Whyte was on an already ruined chin.

 

Whyte was always chinny. Ko'd by Joshua, Povetkin, Fury. Both are chinny but Whyte got dropped by Parker. Wilder lost but stayed on his feet. Rivas too

Whyte has slow feet even compared to Deontay. He can outjab Wilder but I see Wilder sniping him late when Whyte gets into mid range at some point.

 

Not impossible... Equally it's very possible, maybe even likely, that Wilder gets knocked out in the early-mid rounds.

No real shame in getting knocked out by Joshua or Povetkin though - they're both very heavy handed.