What do you think Callum Smith's chances are?

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I still don't understand this 'undrained' Smith talk

    He walks around at 200lbs

    He has 7lbs LESS to cut than he did before. Basically, he spends less time in the sauna or sweatbag. So he has around 6 hours or so of less weight cutting to do.

    His power has not increased. It doesn't move up in weight. Otherwise everyone would be moving up.

    He still fights the same jittery way as he did YEARS ago.

    Yes he has a hair trigger left hook but he misses so many times with it and there doesnt appear to be a lot of thought to his game.

    I watched several of his fights yesterday and saw the same basic patterns over and over.
    Couple that with inactivity of nearly 18 months and a lack of sparring and training and you have a guy who isn't keeping on top of things like he should be.

    I will be generous and say Smith wins the opening few rounds until Beterbiev finds his range.
     
  2. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    He is still a pressure fighter though who will come forward and push Smith on the backfoot. Has he shown and effective left hook on his back foot or just coming forward? If you can't keep Ryder off you how the hell will you keep beterbiev off?
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    It's harder to keep a very compact short southpaw who presents you with far fewer openings to land on off of you than it is an orthodox fighter who squares up. I already explained that. But to further elucidate, Callum's money punches are his left hook and straight right. Those two shots are nigh impossible to land on someone with Ryder's particular style, which is precisely why I picked Ryder to upset Smith. Because styles. It's also the exact same reason why I'm picking Smith against Beterbiev.... styles.
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Biggest fight of Callum’s career and he shat it. He ran away behind a throw away jab and held onto his chin for dear life against a fighter a foot shorter than him.

    I see a repeat of that against Beterbiev. But Beterbiev has lights out power and doesn’t require an opening to open the door. Beterbiev will hit anything and break down the door.

    Beterbiev by KO inside 8.

    Fighters revert to type in pressure situations.
     
  5. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not only that but Beterbiev has life changing power and doesn’t need an opening to throw it.

    He will hit arms and elbows and break the door down.

    Callum Smith is a painting by numbers fighter. He can’t fight off the back foot. Against Canelo all he did all night was do a throw away jab and protect his chin immediately afterwards.

    Ryder worked him over close and pushed him back, and Smith had no answer as he doesn’t have a boxing brain.

    Easy win for Beterbiev.
     
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  6. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    You give far too much credit to being short and a southpaw. To a skilled fighter with such a range advantage, Ryder should be target practice. Just because you are compact does not mean you are hard to hit. Ryder has been beaten up many a time in his career but against a guy with 8 inches reach advantage suddenly he is hard to hit. Ye ok. Will see you after the fight after Smith is walked down and destroyed in a few rounds.

    The reason Ryder had such success was simply because he is a tough pressure fighter and Callum is easily bullied and has overrated power. He is the type of fighter that can hurt you if he lands the perfect punch but in general he is not a punishing heavy handed type of puncher, so if you don't let him get off too much he is not a threat. Canelo and Ryder proved that and a few others who smacked him up.
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    What part of Beterbiev who FTR I'm picking to stop Smith is 39 y/o, has been boxing for 30 years and training like a maniac for a very large amount of that time, and has a ton of wear and tear on his body and is due to get old overnight sometime very soon is too hard to grasp? Everytime he steps foot in a ring at this age against someone world class who can punch very hard, even more so if they possess speed and skills, the risk of him losing increases with each passing day. Fighters with his style burn out a long before they're pushing 40.

    You think Yarde lasts more than 3 rounds against a prime Beterbiev? :lol:

    I've been a fan of Beterbiev since 2008. That's over 15 years so I've seen him in his absolute prime. GGG, Povetkin, Korobov all great amateurs I've followed since the amateur days too and they were all shot or way past their best by Beterbiev's age or when they were considerably younger. Beterbiev isn't facing one opponent in the ring everytime he steps foot into one now he's facing two, the other being Father Time.

    And yes, Beterbiev would beat the 168 Smith into a pulp and knock him senseless but I'm not basing this off the 168 Smith.

    The ''bums'' he KO'd in HL reel fashion at LHW are decent enough fighters. Castillo has fought Bivol and Marcus Browne, the later of whom couldn't put a dent in him but was dropped himself by him. And the other one was a good amateur who fought a lot of top amateurs.

    Team Beterbiev rate Smith highly

    'Marc Ramsey, head trainer for WBC, IBF, WBO light heavyweight champion Artur Beterbiev, expects a very dangerous task when they face mandatory challenger Callum Smith on August 19 at the Videotron Center in Quebec.

    Smith, a former super middleweight champion, suffered his only career defeat by way of a twelve round decision in December of 2020.

    At the time of the loss, Smith had been struggling to make the super middleweight limit of 168 for some time. In the aftermath, he immediately moved up to 175-pounds.

    Since heading to a high weight division, Smith picked up two devastating knockout wins to secure his mandatory crack at Beterbiev.


    Ramsey has a lot of respect for Smith and views him as the most dangerous opponent of Beterbiev's career - which is why he intends to exclusively train Beterbiev, while his other protege Christian Mbilli, who is slated to appear on the undercard, will be left in the good care of Russ Anber and Samuel Décarie.

    "[Callum Smith is] the best boxer we've faced," said Ramsay to the Quebec Journal. “It's not a situation that I like [to leave Mbilli with others], but the magnitude of this fight means that I can't have my mind in several different places. All of my attention will be on Artur.

    “Smith is a complete 6'3" boxer with a long reach. He has a lot of skill, speed and power. It's a complex fight, but it's a fascinating challenge for us."
     
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  8. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Canelo was a shorter compact fighter too and he made Smith tuck up and retreat.

    I'm not saying the same will happen again as Canelo has insane angles to his work but Beterbiev has a very good IQ and ability to reset his opponents also.
     
  9. im sparticus

    im sparticus There Ye Go. Full Member

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    I agree to an extent...there's other factors to consider that can flip that theory on its head.
    That's more of a rock paper scissors analogy that fits the logic.
    But when u consider fighters mental states, ambition, will to win, fear of the delusions, effort put into camps and time out of camps
    then I'm not as sure Smith comes out of the other end. He doesn't train like he used to, doesn't seem to have the drive he used to and I just think AB has a better team and more structure behind him.
     
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  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Will you give Beterbiev credit if he is the 1st to stop Smith?
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    As long as it isn't via rabbit punch, yes.:sisi1
     
  12. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he can't rabbit punch a 6' 1'' fighter.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    6'3, I doubt it either, but if he can find a way... he will.
     
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  14. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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    Yarde caused Beterbiev problems and Smith is a lot better than him.I fancy Callum to get the win
     
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  15. BoxingViewer

    BoxingViewer Active Member Full Member

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    imho beterbiev is just too good for callum smith, however callum smith has that power so you can't completely write him off. I give him a 10-20% chance of pulling off the upset.