Oleksandr Usyk told he lacks "kryptonite" to trouble Tyson Fury in undisputed fight

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    If Briedis can take Usyk to the limit and make him tired then so can Fury
    If Bertberiev in both his bouts with Usyk can drops him with a grazing bodyshot then so can Fury
    If Dubious can crack belly then Fury can crack belly. Fury took the life out of Wallin & Cunningham with Solar Plexus bodyshots.

    Also Martin Bakole did body him in sparring but Bakole hits much harder than Fury and is very unassuming so definitely will have caught Usyk off guard.

    The bodyshot is one of Fury;s forte's actually and was his bread and butter but when messing with big dangerous heavyweights who like to throw swinging punches it's not on the menu as much. It will rear its head again. The hard part for Fury is catching the cat and the hard part for the cat is surviving the pitbull.
     
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  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Did you even see how Fury throws body shots? He will be wide open, and that's against one of the best counter puncher. Good luck.
    Fury also ain't AJ or Dubois. So if they both failed to the body, good luck again for Fury to do anything to Usyk.

    And stop with the Dubois body shot, as we saw in the Miller fight how many lowblow Dubois landed, and all of them was a clear lowblow.
    It was that Miller didn't complain at all, and the ref was incompetent pay imbecile.
    Not that would have change the outcome, but Dubois is a dirty fighter thanks to his new trainer. He was going head first as well.
    He could have very well be DQ-ed in that fight if we are fair.

    I know you are a Fury fan, but if you bet on Fury stopping Usyk to the body, good luck with that prediction again. You will be for a bad awakening.
     
  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali : "It is befitting that I leave the game just like I came in, beating a big bad monster who knocks out everybody and no one can whup him"

    Tyson Fury It is befitting that he leaves the game just as he came in, knocking over a cruiserweight with a bodyshot

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  4. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You have done Boxing yourself right? You have never been hit in that spot? I know I have numerous times. You didn’t ***** and complain did you?
     
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  5. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    So Fury is Superman and is weakened by Kryptonite? GTFOH. Usyk will bob and weave, in and out, while slapping the crap out of Fury.
    Fury may pull and Oliver McCall and start crying in the ring, breaking down completely.
     
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  6. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    At this level, neither fighter is guaranteed the win.

    Momentum favors Usyk greatly, as he has had better opposition and always stays in tip top shape. Duckson is currently in full rehab / weight loss mode, and probably not as focused on fighting just yet. That takes away from what he can truly do in peak form come fight night.

    Weight / size favors Duckson greatly, as he will not only tower over Usyk but will have an extra 40-60 pounds to throw around, and he has a noticeable reach advantage. Even in not peak form, Duckson can will still use these advantages in his favor. How effective he can be?

    Boxing skills is fairly even. We can argue who does this or that better, but overall, they're close enough. Slight advantage to Usyk as we know he will be in great physical and mental shape to utilize these skills.

    Stamina is difficult to analyze. I'd generally favor Usyk as we know of his conditioning, whereas Duckson has definitely lasted 12 rounds with energy as well.

    So in the end, regardless of which fighter we support, it will be an intriguing match. Boxing has a chance to improve its standing with this one. Not to mention a potential good undercard program as well.
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I have been training Martial Arts my whole life. Boxing the least. Prolly less than a year, and it was mostly sparr in Boxing, cause the guy i was sparring was a pure Boxer.

    But in my experience that was a clear lowblow. Prolly hit the cup, "ricochet" and it's beyond painful.
    You don't go like that on body shot. It won't be such an instant reaction if if was a body shot + Usyk reacted literally the same way in the AJ, when he was hit on the exact same spot.
    He was also hit multiple time with body shot before and after that with no effect. If he was hurt to the body, he would have crumble on the very next body shot.

    A guy who knows anything, should be aware of that. You don't recover like that in a body shot. You will need at least a couple of hours if you are hurt badly.

    So yeah clear lowblow, which i already proved million times already + Dubois match against Miller just shows he is targeting illegal blows and being as dirty as possible, thanks to his new coach.
     
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  8. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you a chick? Every guy knows the delayed pain of getting hit in the balls is the worst.
     
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  9. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk's power is continually underrated; obviously he is not a one punch KO artist but the accumulation gets to most opponents (and by most opponents, I mean all his opponents thus far).
     
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  10. BoxingViewer

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    Usyk has the skills where an opponent doesn't see his first shot coming and they are the ones which hurt the most. Like you say an accumulation of shots you don't see coming makes it look like a fighter hits harder. My question is when Usyk is hit by a shot by a natural giant of a heavyweight and it is a shot which he doesn't see coming how does he respond? 6 foot 3 Dubois hurt him badly to the "body" imho. How does he react when the 6 foot 7 and a half Fury launches a barrage of punches to the body?
     
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  11. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury is obviously better than Dubois but I don't think he hits as hard, and if you strip away the fat there isn't much between the lean weights of Fury and Dubois. And at 6 ft 7 Fury may have a harder time hitting Usyk to the body without leaving shots open to the head.
     
  12. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Usyk should retire him same as Parker just did with his old dance partner. A farewell Del4 bout aside.
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    As expected from Fury supporter. Maybe you are the chick, if you have no clue, that actually it's the body shot that most of the time have a delayed reaction.
    But there is a thing called different people, different shots, different places, different reaction i guess Fury supporters have a hard time thinking of this stuffs, h?


    But we can check that pretty easily. Come and i hit you to the balls and see if it's instant or delayed. Simple solution.
     
  14. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah you ain’t touching my balls. LOL.
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yep educate yourself about delayed reaction, and don't embarrass yourself:

    [url]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/piyMDualuQg?feature=share[/url]
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