Jerry Quarry did spar w George Foreman

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  1. Glass City Cobra

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    And you come across as a hard-headed fanboy who doesn't know how to actually have a debate.
     
  2. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Keep going.
     
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  3. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    Ali also did it to decimate Foreman psychologically, to take away any confidence he had of thinking he was going to knock Ali out, like a bad dream where he's throwing with everything he's got and it's getting him nowhere
     
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  4. Curtis Lowe

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    You look good. Get some sleep.
     
  5. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    Dick Sadler asked Quarry if he would mind working with Foreman 1968-69 time frame , Jerry of course OBLIGED, AND HANDLED GEORGE Easy, It was not concerning a real matchup, George was learning against a seasoned pro, Jerry had a rep for not necessarily taking it ez on sparmates , George might have been no exception, Windmill White used some of his behind the back punches to Quarry in a clinch, Jerry proceded to Break THE WNDMILLS' RIBS, AND HOLLARED FOR MF to get the f--k up!

    White admitted later, Jerry might not had much of a sense of humour during sparring sessions!
     
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  6. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    I'm In Quarry's Book "Hard Luck" Jerry never really ducked anybody, If he had a proposition and did not fite the guy then , a lot of times he fought him later, Jerry did not "duck" or shy away from Norton, more like he had not a thing to gain and a number one contender spot to lose (1970 and jeopardise the biggest payday of his career -Ali comeback ). if you defeated Quarry in those days, you were gonna be knee deep in green$.
     
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  7. Rollin

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    You don't typically write such things in a biography.

    Between what Futch said (Norton being high-risk low-reward at the time) and Jerry's own recollection of the events likely lies the truth.
     
  8. ronnyrains

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    Jerry also reportedly knocked Norton cold with one shot sparring for Mac Foster in 1970, -if that means anything? i've had more than one reliable source to the matter, who would you fite at that time , Norton for maybe 10 grand at the Forum, or Ali on his comeback for $338.000?
     
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  9. ronnyrains

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    FROM SCARTISSUE :
    To be clear on the Quarry-Norton thing, a buddy of mine regularly watched a more prime Quarry school Ken Norton at the Main St. Gym in L.A. all the time. In one session he witnessed Quarry knocking Norton cold. This was not unusual to any denizens of the gym because Quarry was hard on sparring partners. He never took it easy on them and that includes his little brother Mike. One particular episode in the gym he watched Jerry sparring with Ray 'Windmill' White and he said it was odd for Jerry that he seemed to be taking it easy on Ray which was out of character for him. Until, of course, Windmill embarrassed Jerry with his patented 'Behind-the-back' punch, which caused Jerry to see red and tear into Ray's body. He left Ray in a heap with broken ribs. But I digress. My point is, the younger, sharper Quarry owned Norton. I will also say, however, that their primes did not coincide.
     
  10. RockyJim

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    Loved watching "Windmill White" fight back in the early 1970's on TV from California....
     
  11. Rollin

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    Sparring stories.

    Sparring.

    Quarry got the Ali fight the same year Norton lost to Garcia, so it wasn't this or that—ultimately though I refuse to argue the subject indepth. Futch never gave any detailed timeline, and neither did Quarry.

    I can very much agree it would be an extremely dangerous fight, and one in which at the time Norton would be an underdog, if that's your point.

    For the sake of consciousness:

    One of the reasons for the lack of big-name fighters on Norton’s resume was their unwillingness to fight him even after the Garcia disaster. Quarry, Lyle, Chuvalo, and Mac Foster had all turned down offers to face Norton.
    Eddie Futch told Ebony magazine: “We tried every one of the ranking heavyweights prior to this, and they all turned us down. We were willing to give them 50 percent of the purse with a guarantee of from $12,000 to $25,000 from our end. But those in boxing know Norton’s ability.”

    Heavyweight Boxing in the 1970's by Joe Ryan
     
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  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    How do you know thisabout their sparring ?
     
  13. ronnyrains

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    I grew up about 150 miles from the ring , the Quarry's did not stay outta the news very often, especially back in those days.
     
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  15. Ney

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    Said it before & I’ll say it again, the Quarry of the late ’60’s & early ’70’s would be a surprisingly live underdog. He was on the slide though by the time Foreman came to prominence.