Wlad Klitschko Versus Joe Frazier

I think Frazier would likely lose half of those fights.

 

I know, that boxing history shows, that a little man in some cases beat out the big man. Mike Tyson is a good example. I just say, that I find it hard to believe, that Frazier, in this specific example would stand a chance against an in prime Wlad. I just watched the Wlad - Leapia again today, and, Leapai, dispite his enourmes strengt, could'nt reach or catch Wlad. Frazier, in his prime, was in life an death battle with 5'10'' Bonavena, with 216 pound Ali (who doesn't come near Wlad in power, size and strength). I think it is rather naive to think that Frazier would be able to survive for max. 4 rounds vs Wlad, 25 % bigger than Ali and Bonavena, roughly estimated.

 

Oh good God, Frazier would’ve lost to half those? Welcome to my ignore list BCS8. I try not to put people on ignore lists on message boards because I try not to take this stuff that seriously but the people acting like that big, boring Ukrainian galoot was God Almighty in the ring and would pole ax every historically elite heavyweight who preceded him is just getting on my every nerve. Size isn’t everything.

 

Are you joking?

 

The synonymy between Leapai and Frazier is well-known amongst boxing pundits and historians. Leapai is definitely a 'Go-To' benchmark here.

 

I think this has disintegrated from serious discussion about who would win the fight to sheer trollery.

How is Wlad going to envelop Frazier with his octopus arms when Frazier is pounding the damn things until they’re purple and he can’t hold those arms up anymore? Maybe people don’t grasp that?

 

How would Frazier be able to turn Wlad's arms purple if he's being crushed? Ditto with him smashing Wlad's hips. Wlad didn't just put his arms on people's shoulders, nor did he give them gentle and warm embraces. He wrestled, threw and rag dolled people to the ground. If they put their head low for any reason, he'd jam his forearm either on their heads or on the back of their necks and either shove them or essentially just belly flop on top on them. He got away with an awful lot of **** lol but he was excellent at using his size and strength to take people out of position and pummel them.

Also to clarify I'm not saying "Frazier doesn't land a single punch on Klitschko", just that you guys are overstating the ease at which Frazier will be able to overcome Klitschko's oftentimes illegal grappling in order to fire off hooks with sufficient torque and venom on them.

 

Do I look like I am joking

 

oh noes how will I ever live with being blocked by a 900 post whatsisname

 

When did he? He didn’t do that against Alexander povetkin. The last time he exchanged with someone instead of excessively clinching them was in the first Sam Peter fight, in which he wasn’t allowed to over clinch. He got dropped three times in that fight.

It seems we got off on the wrong foot here. When you said Frazier took plenty of punishment I assumed you were talking about his ability to evade punches. I apologise if I misunderstood you.

if that’s your standard just for someone to be considered a puncher, wladimir never faced a puncher.

 

Easier said than done. When frazier will have to reset every 10seconds

 

How embarrassing , you not only fully acknowledge Wlads illegal cheating as his method of career victories , but your argument for him winning fantasy fights is also based in this necessity to cheat in order to win. Unashamedly using foul tactics as a legitimate strategy is what Klit Stans are reduced to these days.
Its like picking Holyfield in fantasy fights based on his head butting skill.

Wlads illegal octopus style was referee dependent on his home turf.
You have to include home advantage with Wlads personal assistant who will allow him bear hug , grope and back hump Frazier everytime he gets close to make a case for him winning. Because you know without those advantages Frazier has no problems getting inside Wlads range and ripping his fragile person with hooks he can only take in very small numbers before he mentally and physically shatters.

 

I love Joe Frazier but he was tiny compared to Wlad and a terrible match ups style wise ... P4P, Frazer all day , H2H, there's a reason why weight classes exist ...

 

They were both Heavyweights...

 

You said small fighters couldn’t take the fight to klitschko. He wouldn’t have gassed if he wasn’t forced to exchange.

Joe bugner was also good at using his size. Does Frazier beating him also mean he can beat wlad?

the guy is shorter than don king. Whatever his real height is, he’s not significantly taller than Frazier.

Brewster got TKed out by Robert helenius. Frazier’s corner only threw in the towel because both his eyes were swollen shot.