Who are really the top finishers in the heavyweight division?

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  1. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When we take into account only opponents that were ranked in the top 10 at the time of fighting Win, Lose, or Draw. Including KO, TKO, and Corner Retirements.*,**
    The results might surprise you:

    1. Tyson Fury, KO% = 66.6%, 4 stoppages from 6 fights.
    2. Zhilei Zhang, KO% = 66.6%, 2 stoppages from 3 fights.
    3. Anthony Joshua, KO% = 55.5%, 5 stoppages from 9 fights against top 10 ranked opponents.
    4. Joe Joyce, KO% = 50%, 1 stoppage from 2 fights.
    5. Charles Martin, KO% = 33.3%, 1 stoppage from 3 fights.
    6. Deontay Wilder, KO% = 28.6%, 2 stoppages from 7 fights.
    7. Andy Ruiz, KO% = 25%, 1 stoppage from 4 fights.
    7. Dillian Whyte, KO% = 25%, 1 stoppage from 4 fights.
    7. Luis Ortiz, KO% = 25%, 1 stoppage from 4 fights.
    10. Robert Helenius, KO% = 20%, 1 stoppage from 5 fights.

    * before 05/2022: AVG. TBRB, The Ring, and PBO
    ** after 05/2022: AVG. TBRB, The Ring, and BoxRec Forum HW Top 15
    Edit: Ruiz has 1 stoppage win, and Joshua has 5, added Martin (lol), and Helenius
     
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  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top 10 according to which rankings body? It will vary a fair bit depending.

    By my count Ruiz has fought four top 10 ranked opponents: Parker, Joshua x2, Ortiz and he has one stoppage win. Wilder has two in seven by my count: Stiverne 1, Ortiz x2 (KO's), Fury x3, Parker.
     
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  3. BoxingViewer

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    Imo Zhang is the most clinical of the fighters you listed. Pre Ruiz Joshua was an awesome finisher, however when Joshua fought Wlad they both badly hurt each other early in the fight, yet neither fighter went in for the kill, so to speak. Joshua won that fight based on Wladimir's age. At the end of the fight the 41 year old Wlad could barely stand up and the referee correctly stopped the fight.
     
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  4. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah you are correct. Ruiz has one stoppage win. I'll correct that above.

    Parker fell out of some top 10s after his loss to Joyce, like TBRB. He'll be back in there now, but wasn't sure it was fair to include that as it is based on his victory over Wilder that he re-enters the top 10
     
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  5. Redbeard7

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    Are you going by TBRB? If so, Chisora 2 and Cunningham were ranked, along with Wlad, Wilder x3 and Whyte. So that's 5/7 (unless there are more), which would give Fury the highest ratio.
     
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  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    Strange but the answer is - Tyson Fury.
    AJ took Andy Ruiz down but didn't finish him. Andy Ruiz finished him off.
    Zhang took down Hrgovic, but didn't finish him off; he lost (IMO it should have been a draw, but Zhang certainly didn't finish the job).
    Who was knocked down by Tyson Fury - Fury finished him.
     
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  7. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Furys top level stamina gets him stopoages.
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Same with Usyk.
     
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  9. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua always gets stick but he's the only one who actually fought his way through a respectable number of top 10 fighters. I don't like him as a person but i'll not knock what he does in the ring. Fury on the other hand. Has been an utter disgrace since getting the belts. It's shocking just how poor his run has been the last decade since 'becoming the man'.
     
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  10. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Would be more interesting to compare knock down ratios. Also include or exclude some knockdowns like Zhang vs Joyce or Fury's knockdown on Wilder from the first fight or Sanders knockdown on Vitali Klitschko for example. Those borderline situations tends to screw the end result because of small sample sizes.
     
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    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    For me Zhangs knockdown on Hrgovic was illegal punch to the back of the head.
     
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  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure, that's sounds interesting too.
    To be honest this was just something I scribbled down on some scrap paper when I should have been working, and as Redbeard pointed out I made a mistake on Ruiz.
    Though I'm a bit confused by your inclusions and exclusions part
     
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  13. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Some knockdowns are counted some not.
     
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  14. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is a surprising fact you mentioned about Fury! But at the same time he hasn't really fought any top 10 with great chins, i.e. the likes of Parker, Joyce, Ruiz Jr., Hrgovic.
     
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  15. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, but to be specific I didn't understand the meaning of the examples you were using:
    Zhang v Joyce? Was there something controversial?
    "Fury's knock down of Wilder in their first fight"?
    Sorry I don't know what you are referring to?
     
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