Uncanny parallels between Vitali Klitschko and Deontay Wilder

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  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Major difference between the two is Vitali era lacked depth and quality in The division from 2004 -2012 compared to 2015 - till present.

    Even with that fact, despite still having a weak record for his talent, Vitali still had a better record of beating quality opponents than Wilder.
     
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  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True, that is a factor. Wilder was the only American male to medal over two Olympic cycles (2008-2012) out of 18 athletes, 10 of which went on to become titlists/champions.
     
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  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Vitali era lacked depth and quality"

    This is just an excuse, Wlad fought much better opposition in the same era. On top of that, even Wlad could have fought better opposition than he actually did. Look at his run between Haye and Pulev barring the Povetkin Judo match, three of those opponents were laughably bad (Mormeck, Pianeta, Leapai) and another two were not good (Thompson 2, Wach). Far better and more lucrative alternatives were available but they would have been more dangerous.

    "Vitali still had a better record of beating quality opponents"

    You've said yourself that Sanders and Chisora are his best wins and I agree. Nobody impartial will see clear blue water between Vitali's run as champion and Wilder's.
     
  4. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let me see - they're also both men, both Thier mom's are female, they're born north of the equator, they both (at times) speak understandable English.

    On a more serious note - how is Klitschkos resume weak? Who should he have fought?

    How was Klitschko vs Fury a classic war? War of attrition?

    What's left? Both are hard punching heavyweights (one has also KO wins against ranked boxers, the other mainly part time boxers) and both have some wins and defeats? Uncanny.
     
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  5. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you're confusing Wlad and Vitali.
     
  6. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes I am!

    However, most of my observations are still true and Vitalis resume might be "weak" but by that standard Wilders resume is paper thin.

    So I find no resemblance between the twos careers at all.

    Wilder also got beat three times in a row by a shot and inactive Tyson Fury and vitali got stopped by a cut in a war against Lewis.
     
  7. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Wilder also got beat three times in a row by a shot and inactive Tyson Fury"

    "Shot" is ridiculous. If Fury had been shot he'd have got KO'd and many thought that Wilder 2 was Fury's best career performance, even if it's not it's certainly up there.

    Vitali failed to put a dent in blown-up LHW Byrd and the twice one-punch KO'd Lewis over 15 combined rounds and found a way to lose both, in the Byrd fight he quit. Vitali is more popular than Wilder for a variety of reasons so he'll get a million excuses made for his losses.

    If 2018 Ortiz, 2015 Stiverne, 2004 Sanders and 2008 Peter had a round robin, I think Wilder's wins would come out on top.

    Vitali getting into the Hall (on the 1st ballot no less) obviously opens the door to Wilder getting in because their careers were pretty similar:

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/comparing-wilder-and-vitali.714530/
     
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  8. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitalis worst losses are debatable while Wilders best win is debatable.

    I'm suprised that you'd think their careers are similar.
     
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  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I don't understand the point of this thread, what's the bottom line you're trying to make?

    Wilder has good power, athleticism, chin but he ain't no vitali klitscko.

    Vitali gave Lewis all he could handle, and was up on the cards. Would have won if it wasn't stopped, hell we've seen cuts just as bad and the fight still continues.. *cough* fury wallin.

    Avenged his brothers loss against Corrie. yeah he had had an off night against Byrd, many top boxers do. But he is way better than Wilder and never touched the canvas.

    Wilder is just a one hit wonder, gets smashed to pieces till he lands his shot.. until he doesnt and then loses the fight.
     
  10. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Wilder is not near Vitali level and neither is his daddy Fury.
     
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  11. ForemanJab

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    Vitali Klitschko wouldn't go life and death with a football hooligan or pastry chef.
     
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  12. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Or shaken up by a schoolteacher.
     
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  13. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sanders would absolutely KO Wilder. A prime Chisora might as well.

    There is no one on Wilder's resume who I would favor over Vitali and that include fat boy Fury.
     
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  14. cuchulain

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    You get dafter with each post.

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    You should contact Boxrec and see if they're interested in including your "MAY WELL HAVE LOST" statistic to their resumes of boxers.

    They could list a fighter, say Floyd. They would list his wins and the opponents he beat, just like they do now.


    But then, thanks to your brilliant, creative idea, they could list...

    Paul Williams
    AntonioMargarito
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Roberto Duran
    Tommy Hearns
    etc

    ...as boxers Floyd "may well have lost to."



    Or they could list on Pac's Boxrec page...

    Zab Judah
    Wilfred Benitez
    Henry Armstrong
    etc

    ...as boxers Pac "may well have lost to."


    Your innovative idea will ensure that you will go down in the annals of boxing commentary as an important, original thinker when it comes to chronicling the history of pugilism.











    "may well have lost to."


    :biggrin:

    What'll you think up next ?

     
  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even at his best, Sanders was dangerous for 7.5 minutes or 3 rounds at most according to his record. He got one-shotted by club fighter Nate Tubbs, taken out by fringe contender Rahman. But Sanders never loses a forum hypothetical.

    Prime Chisora KO'd 2/16 of his best opponents: Takam in 8 and Scott in 6.

    Vitali as a H2H God is a myth. Wilder-tier resume without the brutal KO's, quit against natural sub-cruiser Byrd, failed against twice-one shotted Lewis. Amazing.