Anthony Joshua's legacy as it stands in 2024

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  1. 11player

    11player Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joshua's legacy? I' d say impressive:

    Olympic champion
    Amateur World Championship silver medalist
    2 time 3 belts unified World HW Champion

    Very few in history have achieved as much.

    Since the 90s, only W. Klitschko and Usyk can argue a better run.
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Honestly I'd happily call AJ a great heavyweight. Not ATG, but he's carved out a great career.

    The more I think about it, the more impressive it's been.

    He was the best HW during Furys sabbatical and he's faced the p4p number 1 twice.
     
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  3. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So which of those guys do you think would have beaten Fury?
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's too bad that he's starting to face easier opposition, though. Hope that's only temporary.
     
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  5. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Nearly all respectable voices had Fury winning all 3 bouts and Wlad was closest to beating Fury.

    https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/box...re-the-first-fight/1fsr0vmtxcf2i14nbsy5o1q5ey

    Pressrow had it:

    Fury win = 15
    Wilder win = 3
    Draw = 9

    PBC shills are literal clowns
     
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  6. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That complete moron constantly states that Wilder “came closer to beating fury than Wlad did”

    Never mentions that he got 3 chances at it though whilst Fury ran from the Wlad rematch.
     
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  7. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Probably Prime Wlad and nobody else including Aj
     
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  8. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Danny Williams and Kevin McBride destroyed Tyson too. Wilder can't beat Duhaupas-level anymore.
     
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  9. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yoka and Audley were star amateurs too. Like AJ, Yoka was gifted gold.

    No boxer would prefer Joshua's record to Fury's or Usyk's. Joshua is boosted, like Wlad to a degree, because he's a "loser", because he's "safe".
     
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  10. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Parker will be the one left standing after it all shakes down, only 31 and improving.
     
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  11. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Pressrow had it:

    Fury win = 15
    Wilder win = 3
    Draw = 9"

    How did press row have Fury-Wlad? I guarantee that hardly any of them had Wlad getting a result.

    Boxrec has Fury beating Wlad by 10 rounds

    Wallin by 9 (plus bad cuts)

    Wilder 1 by 6 points

    Ngannou by 3 points

    McDermott 1 by 1 points

    So there's four who came closer to beating Fury than Wlad. I'd throw in Wilder 3 (2 KD's in a single round) and Cunningham (if the officials were anti-Fury it could have technically been a DQ or majority TD loss after 6 rounds). So that's six who did better than Wlad, who lost by a country mile against a world title debutant fighting away from home, broke a Compubox record for fewest punches landed in a 12 round heavyweight title fight as champ and Fury never needed to change his strategy once.
     
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  12. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BoxRec is a joke. WGAF what they had or have?

    BoxRec has Tank #4 PFP, Eubank Jr #8 PFP, and some guy named Oshaquie Foster #10 PFP. Meanwhile Usyk is #14 PFP and Inoue is ranked below Canelo.

    ......

    Why are you even mentioning boxrec?

    Typical conspiracy bull**** from a Wilder fan who is, by extent, a conspiracy nutjob
     
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  13. steviebruno

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    His legacy will be making Andy Ruiz a champion. I told everyone that Ruiz was just a fat guy who knew how to put his punches together. AJ can win his next 50 fights and still not erase the stench of getting KO'd by that blob.
     
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  14. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxrec scoring, it's fan scoring and nothing to do with Boxrec's algorithm. Same as fan scoring on eyeonthering.

    You mentioned "press row" for Fury-Wilder 1, so you're considering a non-official judge source. Ok. Then how many in "press row" had Wlad winning or getting a draw? I guarantee that press row had Fury-Wilder 1 closer than Fury-Wlad, just as the official judges, eyeonthering and boxrec did.

    Claiming that Wlad came closest to beating Fury is laughable. There are at least five, possibly six opponents in front of Wlad as it stands.

    "Typical conspiracy bull**** from a Wilder fan who is"

    This makes no sense lol. Where was my alleged conspiracy?
     
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  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem w that is there are fans like YOU so fan scoring is completely irrelevant. Head over to boxscene - another dog**** website - and they still believe Fury used egg weights and a Ouija board to unfairly summon ancestral spirits.

    No, fan scoring does not matter. Of course you will come across rational scores from some fans too, but fans are not a source of objective information/referral
     
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