Anyone that says Wilder is deluded. Wilder may have won head to head (debatable) but his career has been far inferior to AJ's.
102 votes to 7 and none of those 7 really believe The Dosser has had a better career because in order for anyone to believe something so patently absurd they would literally have to be as dumb as The Dosser This content is protected
Yes. Like I keep saying, you have to be an incredibly disingenuous and deceitful spin merchant and apply industrial amounts of spin and lie through your teeth to even attempt to argue The Dosser's is even on par with AJ's, let alone better. But that's exactly what these clowns who do so are. They're lying through their rotten teeth, spin.. spin... spinning, and performing Olympic level mental gymnastics to try and convince us that a fighter who has only beaten a whopping TWO world champions in 47 fights, one of whom was shot to pieces and 2-4 in their last 6 fights, 3 of said losses via KO/stoppage, both wins against nobodies, and the other is a Stiverne who is one of the worst HW champions of all time and has never beaten a world champion himself, is better than AJ who has achieved way more and has a far more better resume in way less fights and was already a three-belt unified champion at a stage of his career when The Dosser hadn't fought anyone prime with a pulse AJ is getting trashed for fighting a 0-1-0 MMA fighter in his next fight even though they did way better in one attempt at Belly in their first ever boxing match than The Dosser did in three with at least 75 boxing fights am and pro under his belt AJ's victim J-Park just schooled The Dosser 12-0 with consummate ease The Dosser has fought 4 world champions in 47 fights and he's 3-3-1 against them but 2 of those 3 wins came against shot fighters and the draw should be a loss So in reality he's 1-4-0 against non shot world champions and that lone win came against a sick Stiverne in a vacant title match up who, as said, is one of the worst HW champions even when healthy whose second best win is a well past prime slug slow Ray Austin who was boxing his ears off all night prior to gassing and getting clipped in the 10th
Its not even remotely close. Wilders career highlight was dropping Fury a few times across a trilogy but never winning. When it comes to his actual wins its Ortiz and then you're right away getting to guys like Stiverne, Arreola, Szpilka, Duhaupas, and guys AJ also beat like Helenius and Breazele. He spent 15 years and nearly 50 fights doing a whole lot of nothing.
I thought Wilder showed incredible heart and determination in the third fight which was in many ways a career defining performance (alongside the Ortiz fights). He has a solid legacy and is an ATG puncher imo. However I think his performance in the first Fury fight has been vastly overrated and I think Tyson was far from his best. Outside of an older Ortiz, he’s beaten no one of note which holds him back in head to head discussions.
But then is going life and death (and losing by KO) against a fat, untrained Fury any better than going life and death (and winning by KO) against an old but super-motivated Wlad? And the shot Joshua took in that Wlad fight was harder than anything Wilder had to take and get up from, by far. And Wilder since then had that terrible non-performance against Parker, while Joshua went on to win against Parker, Povetkin, Ruiz etc. Wilder fans are moaning that the Fury fights took something out of Wilder to excuse his loss to Parker. Well I'm sure the Wlad fight took something out of Joshua, and at a much earlier stage of his career, not to mention the first Ruiz fight where he was ridiculed to hell and back. Yet here he is still in the driving seat while Wilder is looking into the headlights of retirement. I think there's no metric to say that Wilder's career is better than Joshua's.
Totally agree on the last part. I think that some fanboys on here are trying to excuse Wilder after that schooling. I think he’s got something left personally and inactivity plus Parker’s ability really were much more significant factors than the trilogy. Yes, that single punch was harder than any Wilder probably took against Fury. However he did take way more successive blows which in many ways is more damaging than a single big shot.
AJ has a way better career than Wilder in terms of resume, legacy and money in the bank. Wilder was hiding out with his dodgy WBC strap for years before stepping up and fighting another real champion and we all know how that turned out for him.