Artur Beterbiev had an “atypical finding" for test and HGH

UniversalPart · Jan 11, 2024

Thunderstorm said: ↑

its always the russians and ukrainians
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But never Americans.

UniversalPart · Jan 11, 2024

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If Beterbiev was Hearns fighter he would have been smoking his knob every opportunity trying to make deals in Saudi

lordlosh · Jan 11, 2024

UniversalPart said: ↑

Atypical can mean lots of things.

It is not adverse though unlike Benn: whose results were through the roof

You can have naturally "atypical" HGH and testosterone purely through your genetic profile. Look at the size of Beterbiev's head, hands and feet for example yet he is barely over 5ft10.
To naturally increase human growth hormone (HGH) and testosterone levels, consider the following lifestyle adjustments:

**For HGH:**

1. **High-Intensity Exercise:** Engage in high-intensity interval training (HIIT) and strength training. These activities can stimulate HGH release.

2. **Adequate Sleep:** Ensure you get quality sleep as a significant amount of HGH is released during deep sleep.

3. **Intermittent Fasting:** Some studies suggest that intermittent fasting can boost HGH production.

4. **L-Arginine Supplementation:** This amino acid may help stimulate HGH release, but consult a healthcare professional before taking supplements.

5. **Reducing Sugar Intake:** High sugar levels can suppress HGH production, so reducing sugar consumption may be beneficial.

**For Testosterone:**

1. **Strength Training:** Regular resistance training, especially compound exercises like squats and deadlifts, can increase testosterone levels.

2. **Adequate Sleep:** Quality sleep is crucial for maintaining healthy testosterone levels.

3. **Healthy Fats:** Include sources of healthy fats in your diet, such as avocados, nuts, and olive oil, as they support testosterone production.

4. **Vitamin D:** Ensure sufficient vitamin D levels through sunlight exposure or supplements, as it plays a role in testosterone production.

5. **Zinc-Rich Foods:** Zinc is essential for testosterone synthesis, and foods like oysters, beef, and pumpkin seeds are good sources.

6. **Stress Management:** Chronic stress can lead to increased cortisol levels, which can suppress testosterone production. Practice stress-reducing activities like meditation or yoga.

Remember that individual responses may vary, and it's advisable to consult with a healthcare professional before making significant lifestyle changes or taking supplements.
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And i was doing all of this, at 34 years at age, and all of my labs result was perfect, with the exception of the test. Which was still in the fine limit, but on the low end.
So all this talk is one pile of b.c.

I'm not saying Beterbiev is guilty, i'm saying all of this is b.c. And anyone who has trying to get his test level high with this b.c. has failed.
There is one viable way and that is TRT, sorry but that just a fact.
Mid to late 30s, your test going to be low, no matter what, unless you are on the sweet juice.

Anyone can go and do blood test, and see his results. Then try to use supplements, that supposedly help with Test/HGH and then done a test few months later, and see the result. It will be the same or close to the same, maybe even lower.
Most of the supplements are one big pile of horse....

Grinder · Jan 11, 2024

Thunderstorm said: ↑

its always the russians and ukrainians
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Apart from Fury, Whyte, Benn etc

lordlosh · Jan 12, 2024

And yeah if it wasn't a clear until now, even though i already explain it in the very first post:

Atypical is not a positive/failed test.

It's not a passed test too.
It just mean you have elevated levels than usual(for a plain example, even though it's not that simple).

What happen after it, VADA was put a close eye on Beterbiev and tested him after it, and he passes the next test, and he is cleared.

The main problem here is Hearn and that they announced this, which shouldn't have happen. While i can't be sure, but there is probably a lot of athletes that have Atypical results, and then their level comes to normal, and everything is fine, and we never heard about it.

But now Beterbiev is fighting Hearn boxer, and it's all over the media.

Make your mind on it. This could mean anything. It could very well means Beterbiev is juicing like mad, and he mismanaged his cycle, and that's why they delayed the fight, claiming the "tooth infection". They slipped/f***** up with the cycle/masking agents, etc, etc.

Or it could very well be just an unusual case, and Beterbiev is clean as a whistle.

lordlosh · Jan 12, 2024

Grinder said: ↑

Apart from Fury, Whyte, Benn etc
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Khan as well. And i don't wanna even start about USA athlete in Boxing, as they are tons of cases:
Briggs, Roy, James Toney, Miller, Andre Berto, Antonio Tarver, Fernando Vargas, etc, etc.
Plenty of Mexican as well: Canelo, Salido, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Erik Morales, etc, etc.

Grinder · Jan 12, 2024

UniversalPart said: ↑

Atypical can mean lots of things.

It is not adverse though unlike Benn: whose results were through the roof

You can have naturally "atypical" HGH and testosterone purely through your genetic profile. Look at the size of Beterbiev's head, hands and feet for example yet he is barely over 5ft10.
To naturally increase human growth hormone (HGH) and testosterone levels, consider the following lifestyle adjustments:

**For HGH:**

1. **High-Intensity Exercise:** Engage in high-intensity interval training (HIIT) and strength training. These activities can stimulate HGH release.

2. **Adequate Sleep:** Ensure you get quality sleep as a significant amount of HGH is released during deep sleep.

3. **Intermittent Fasting:** Some studies suggest that intermittent fasting can boost HGH production.

4. **L-Arginine Supplementation:** This amino acid may help stimulate HGH release, but consult a healthcare professional before taking supplements.

5. **Reducing Sugar Intake:** High sugar levels can suppress HGH production, so reducing sugar consumption may be beneficial.

**For Testosterone:**

1. **Strength Training:** Regular resistance training, especially compound exercises like squats and deadlifts, can increase testosterone levels.

2. **Adequate Sleep:** Quality sleep is crucial for maintaining healthy testosterone levels.

3. **Healthy Fats:** Include sources of healthy fats in your diet, such as avocados, nuts, and olive oil, as they support testosterone production.

4. **Vitamin D:** Ensure sufficient vitamin D levels through sunlight exposure or supplements, as it plays a role in testosterone production.

5. **Zinc-Rich Foods:** Zinc is essential for testosterone synthesis, and foods like oysters, beef, and pumpkin seeds are good sources.

6. **Stress Management:** Chronic stress can lead to increased cortisol levels, which can suppress testosterone production. Practice stress-reducing activities like meditation or yoga.

Remember that individual responses may vary, and it's advisable to consult with a healthcare professional before making significant lifestyle changes or taking supplements.
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Beterbiev is very careful with his body. He doesn't drink, party, etc, and is always in shape. I admit that an outlier like AB who destroys quality opponents could be suspect, but the test passed. It was just higher than "normal".

pepsiclassic · Jan 12, 2024

Meh sounds like nothing.

However I think beterbiev is in for one hell of a fight. If smith is durable he could last the distance and then you never know what the judges will think. If beterbiev isn't able to dominate rounds it will go below expectations of him and to some judges a closer round even if it seems beterbiev should have won could go the other way.

I'll take beterbiev still but I'm pretty nervous as for the testing. This is complete nothing news and despite the word atypical this happens in boxing more often than people think. This information usually isn't out in the open.

pepsiclassic · Jan 12, 2024

UniversalPart said: ↑

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I notice that typical beterbiev haters aren't even chiming in on this news because they know it's nothing.

Any of you natty gym rats in awesome shape could be atypical. And for those saying why now and not before. I bet he's been atypical before. Pro athletes are generally genetically gifted. If anyone here works out and is clean and finds they get into shape faster etc.

KINGWILDER · Jan 12, 2024

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They're all doing it. Who cares at this point.
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I think most are but this regiment has been used by so many to excuse their favourite fighters of abusing PEDs (cough cough Tyson Fury). While they all may be taking something, I think there are also probably varying degrees of abuse and some guys who get away with taking far more than others. I think drugs testing is still very important and we should care, especially when people pop dirty for very hard stuff like EPO (namely Miller).

lufcrazy · Jan 12, 2024

KINGWILDER said: ↑

I think most are but this regiment has been used by so many to excuse their favourite fighters of abusing PEDs (cough cough Tyson Fury). While they all may be taking something, I think there are also probably varying degrees of abuse and some guys who get away with taking far more than others. I think drugs testing is still very important and we should care, especially when people pop dirty for very hard stuff like EPO (namely Miller).
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None of them need excusing, it's dirty as **** but it is what it is

UniversalPart · Jan 12, 2024

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Negative tests

Braindamage · Jan 12, 2024

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Fury's nandrolone was an atypical finding which is why UKAD sat on the result for over 18 months. Nandrolone is produced naturally in the body and false positives have occurred in other sports. I know someone who does NHS blood tests for a living and it's very possible to fail for nandrolone naturally, normally if you've taken something it will be factors over the 2ng/ml limit. UKAD have never published what result Fury had I assume very close to the this limit which then requires further GC/C/IRMS analysis.
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Stop it! Fury cheated. Boar meat, belly boy is gonna lose to Usyk.

MrPook · Jan 12, 2024

Naughty naughty!!

senpai · Jan 12, 2024

lordlosh said: ↑

Atypical is not a positive/failed test
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100%

Nobody should be mentioning this, but Hearn is doing dirty again. He will be out of the boxing pretty soon.

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