Parker vs. Zhang rumoured to feature Joshua/Ngannou Undercard.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CroBox29, Jan 15, 2024.

  1. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2023
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    1,652
    Actually Parker ducked Hrgovic maybe 1 year, 1,5 prev.
    U can check it. IBF looking for opponents for Hrgovic for mandatory fight and Parker was one of few top names who said "no".

    When I look at Hrgovic carrer I dont see any duck of him and many duck from opponents (Ortiz, Ruiz, Hunter, Parker, Bakole and more)
     
    kriszhao likes this.
  2. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2021
    Messages:
    5,466
    Likes Received:
    7,089
    Name 10 heavyweights who'd beat Wilder today. Being top ten means you're not past your prime.
     
    lordlosh likes this.
  3. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2023
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    1,652
    It will be not duck if he got this option same time and choose better money.
    But it was not like that.
    Parker said no because money was not enough. Ok.
    But now I dont think that's the problem when Saudi paid for all.

    Duck/not take fight. Call it whatever You want.
    He just dont want Filip fight.
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2014
    Messages:
    7,758
    Likes Received:
    7,483
    Oh really??? Another Wilder i see in him. Somehow everyone is ducking him.
    I don't care what happen 1.5 years ago. Don't know the details.
    All i know is Parker fought Wilder, AJ fought Wallin and Hrgovic fought De Mori... And now he is not on the March card, yeah the reason is obvious...
     
    piprules likes this.
  5. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2023
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    1,652
    WTF? You trolling or what?
    You dont care? You dont know? Soo maybe start search in Google and check how it was before You start talking about this again.

    That was IBF proposition. Check how many boxer said no and go down in rankings instead fighting Filip for mandatory. Only Yoka and Zhang agree.

    And why Filip dont fight with Parker? Let me think. Maybe because Parker dont want him and choose easier option? Lol.
    Genius...
     
    Wizbit1013 and Serge like this.
  6. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2021
    Messages:
    3,791
    Likes Received:
    7,051
    Zhang brutalises Parker worse than Joyce did
     
    NullaLexInk likes this.
  7. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Messages:
    6,204
    Likes Received:
    7,341
    Hrgovic accepted Parker's offer for a fight, but in the end Parker decided on Zhang, considering that Zhang is an easier opponent than Hrgovic, which is probably not the case, the reason is that Zhang brings more money...
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    84,385
    Likes Received:
    140,413
    Remember the contest here. Hrgovic is being accused of ducking J-Park after accepting his challenge which J-Park didn't even respond to, and after J-Park has already declined to fight him once before despite the prize for beating him being a guaranteed title shot and if he beats Hrgovic now he will still be guaranteed a title shot or maybe even elevated to champ after doing so.

    Why is Hrgovic getting blamed for J-Park opting to fight Big Bang instead of him after Hrgovic accepted his challenge?
     
    Wizbit1013 likes this.
  9. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2023
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    1,652
    Because some people are ignorant? They dont care about facts. Only which boxer they like more xD
     
  10. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2022
    Messages:
    2,895
    Likes Received:
    5,115
    I'll be honest, I'm not a huge fan of Hrgovic. He bores me, and has a tendency to land punches to the back of the head that I have a hard time saying are accidental all the time. Plus I'm not gonna lie, I'm still a bit disappointed he got the nod over Zhang, though I don't consider it a robbery like some folks.

    That being said, I doubt he's the one to blame for a fight with Parker not materializing. More likely, Parker and his team just weighed the options and went with the one that seemed more winnable, and if I had to guess gets them more money. Plus Zhang is an Interim title holder and not just a mandatory, so that right there is an automatic elevation for whoever holds it when the titles are vacated later in the year.

    So yeah, in my opinion nobody is ducking anybody. Just some business maneuvering, which unfortunately is as big a part of boxing as... well, boxing :lol:
     
    lordlosh likes this.
  11. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2023
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    1,652
    Soo choosing easier option is no ducking? So what is?

    What is Filip chances to do big career when all choose other fights? Lol
     
  12. GDM74

    GDM74 Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2021
    Messages:
    317
    Likes Received:
    433
    To be honest I assume it’s the Saudis who decide who fight who, no one else gets a say…including the fighters!!!
     
    lordlosh likes this.
  13. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2016
    Messages:
    11,442
    Likes Received:
    14,684
    I generally agree with you that Hrgovic has been ducked left right and centre, it's very frustrating for his fans and I get that. But calling it a duck is definitely too harsh on Parker.

    Parker is willing to fight Hrgovic if it makes career sense but it hasn't:

    - he chose to fight Joyce for the WBO route rather than Hrgovic for the IBF, it was an equivalently good fight and way more money.

    - he is now fighting Zhang, either because Wilder does not want to and/or because his team prefer the Zhang fight, again an equivalently good fight for more money.

    In both cases all of us would make the same decisions as Parker, it's not the same as fighting some no-hoper instead. It's a reflection of the fact that Hrgovic is both good and relatively unknown.

    I despise the fact that boxing is this way and people like Hrgovic struggle to get a good opponent, but it would be unfair to blame Parker too much as he is one of the few consistently making good fights.

    TLDR: Joe was willing to face Hrgovic (why can him out if not - better to stay quiet), but I was fairly sure that, if given the option, he would take Zhang as he has a better chance there and it will raise his profile more. We don't even know if that is what has happened, it's quite possible that Wilder decided he wasn't ready and the Saudis needed someone to fight Zhang (they definitely wouldn't want to drop Zhang and millions of Chinese fans).
     
    NullaLexInk and Bokaj like this.
  14. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2023
    Messages:
    1,097
    Likes Received:
    1,652
    Off course its good move from Parker to choose Zhang not Filip.
    I never said it is not. But me as fan judge it not from his safe perspective but from mine where he second time decide choose someone other even when Filip call him out official
     
  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2010
    Messages:
    94,650
    Likes Received:
    29,565
    Shouldn't Joshua vs that 0-1 guy be on the undercard of Zhang vs Parker instead?