Joe Bugner V Andy Ruiz

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ThatOne, Jan 18, 2024.


Who wins

  1. Joe

    69.6%
  2. Andy

    30.4%
  1. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins this banger?
     
  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    At his best, back against the ropes, I like Joe.
     
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  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe's the man.
     
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  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    I would gladly replace the upcoming Fury vs Usyk fight with this one. What a corker this is. :D

    Perhaps the axiom “You snooze you lose” might apply here. It could be the spectators themselves who end up nodding off.

    If Ruiz makes it ugly enough and reasonably foul riddled - Big Joe will become ****ed off and unveil the Hungarian Hammer - his lethal right hand (a well kept secret, perhaps too well kept) - and it will ultimately be Ruiz who will be “snoozing” after a Tuaesque style KO.

    Never awake the Sleeping Giant.
     
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  5. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends on whether Joe could be bothered.

    The outcome of this fight is entirely on him.
     
  6. 20thCenturyBox

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    The key to beating Joe Bugner was effective aggression. Just about everyone who beat Bugner was busier than him. That applies to Jack Bodell as much as Muhammad Ali.

    Andy Ruiz lost his fight against Joseph Parker because he wasn't quite busy enough. He was outpointed by Anthony Joshua because he wasn't anywhere near busy enough (eating all those Snickers bars had consequences). In short, Ruiz would not be busy enough to beat Joe Bugner.
     
  7. Pugguy

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    Mea culpa! I totally misread this to be John Ruiz. Duh! I’ll dispense with any “workings” and still pick Joe - as @The Cryptkeeper suggested, I agree it’s all on Joe to win or lose this.
     
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  8. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bugner, at his best, quite likely mugs Ruiz Jr over the distance.


    Bugner W UD 12 (wide)
     
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  9. ThatOne

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    Joe crushing this poll like he would crush Andy.
     
  10. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    I haveta say Joe Bugner's been very overrated since his career is over, he did not have a knockout punch, and he did not have the big wins, like say a Ron Lyle or Jerry Quarry who both had 9 top ten victories.
    HOWEVER BUGNER WAS A BETTER FIGHTER THAN I GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR. TO SURVIVE ALI & FRAZIER
     
  11. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He had Frazier in real trouble.
     
  12. Fireman Fred

    Fireman Fred Active Member Full Member

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    Both are frustrating fighters who don´t let their hands go enough.

    Ruiz managed to beat Joshua though but his fight with Joseph Parker is an indicator of how he fights.

    Bugner had all the tools but with the exception of after Frazier knocked him down or the Dunn and Winston Allen fights, he never let loose with venom.

    Nonetheless he was a tough, durable boxer who usually did just enough to win.

    I think Joe could nick a decision in a close snoozefest.
     
  13. davidjay

    davidjay Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The answer to this is the same answer as Bugner v just about every fighter of the past fifty years - it depends which version of him turns up.
     
  14. GoldenHulk

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    Fat Andy squashes The Bug