Is there a theoretically perfect way to catch peds?

But then you'd eventually have all the anti doping programs bankrupt and no testing would take place at all, allowing everyone to cheat without consequence. It's not feasible real world solution for most cases which is why it isn't done, that and most of the time the anti-doping organisations would lose because they couldn't prove it was done intentionally so the athlete gets away a shorter ban anyway while bankrupting the anti doping organisation.

 

Ah well if that is the case, then we will await the coroner and judicial court case, after some juiced up fighter, possibly who has had short bans previously, kills a opponent and the juicing up was found to have been contributory.

 

USADA does Olympic style drug testing (OSDT) for an agreed upon period of time (usually ~8-10 weeks). WADA (and the wbc365 program) test year round so its not OSDT...its ODT. Problem is its "allegedly" random and is only done by WBC and not any other belt orgs.

The only way to overcome PED use in combat sports is random blood and urine testing year round. That means during and between camps. Nobody would pay for that though so itll never happen

 

Sure, if we are talking theory. Where cost is not a factor.

Test daily.

 

There are more peds than there are tests for,hence why they hold onto tests for so long so they can be re tested again at a later date when further testing procedures become available .

 

Swap Spain for Italy at the Olympics during covid after having no testing for 2 years due to lack of lab capacity......nothing to see here honest

 

It's impossible to stop it 100% but at the very top say 20 of each ranking they should be on 24/7 testing with blood work passports.

All blood work should also be retained and tested again at later dates when testing improves.

I say this as someone with a close friend who missed out on standing on a Olympic podium and commonwealth gold solely because of drugs cheats who have later had their medals stripped.

 

Even if that were to happen it wouldn't change anything. The fighter that used PED's would he of course condemned but unless they can create a way to prove with 100% accuracy that someone knowingly cheated they'll never be able to enforce a lifetime ban in the courts.

This isn't about doping organisations and sports not wanting life time bans, I'm sure every body that wants a clean sport supports that idea, myself included but it simply isn't workable under the law as the burden of proof is greater than the science can uphold. Cycling tried to issue life time bans back in 2012 and they just got overturned. Increasing the punishment and therefore increasing the burden of proof would actually result in fewer cheaters getting banned because of the requirement of a greater burden of proof.

 

A key problem is that the people involved in the business side are as dirty as or dirtier than the fighters.

Technically it shouldn't be that difficult without the 'human element'.

Random testing year round at short intervals for top fighters (pick your rank limit) and anyone fighting them.
Massive bans and fines.

They know what to look for and how long cycling takes etc., it's just a matter of consistent pressure.

But then comes the protection for profitable fighters. To put it into perspective, we just have to take a sport that didn't come from the underbelly, like tennis, and see how corrupt that is due to money. One of the best examples of protection of a 'brand' was Agassi, who was the biggest tournament and sponsor draw for a while, biggest star, and he was busted for amphetamine or some recreational drug like this. Not a PED but point is their testing caught him. Then they covered it up to protect his image and the sport's image and therefore keep profiting. It only came to light after he retired.

If that's happening in tennis imagine the protection AJ/Canelo/Pac/Wilder etc. are getting.

 

What about boar meat Fury?

Convenient you forgot his name while mentioning AJ

Ngannou is juicing, Mike Tyson was a juicer & product of US hype but Fury is a product of organic British boar meat I see...

 

The war on PEDs is like the war on drugs, the "authorities" will always be playing catch-up.

And just like there will always be people in general society who want to get high, top level athletes will always look for an edge.

 

Periodic Hair Follicle testing would definitely make an athlete think twice before cheating.

 

They call it OSDT, but it's far from it. It's basically the OST setup without international multi organisation and lab testing, done by an organization that's shifty as hell certainly when it comes to own nationality athletes, and like you already mentioned for only a limited amount of time, which completely ruins the entire testing setup.
The WBC method is a lot better in comparison, but we know that most get off with a slap on the wrist when caught, and when it comes the Mexican fighters they basically get a free pass.

 

Well in the UK those who get caught drink/drug driving seem to have any ban enforced in as much as the substance is present at a level above what is permitted, how that substance entered the guilty persons system is not of significance.

If the rules regarding blood levels in boxing are set in stone, then if above those levels you are guilty, the levels are biochemistry facts, how they entered the fighters system is supposition or excuse, the whole of the blood level limits will need reviewing to ensure there are no escape clauses that could be argued AKA excuses, but above those then you are guilty.

Fact is things will only change is sanctioning bodies, athletic commisions etc force change, or even want change.