Does Cleveland Williams hit hard or really hard?

If you don't actually want to defend your bizarre position then just say that instead of wasting time.

Let me know when the Hall of Fame is dominated primarily by the most athletic boxers.

 

Thankfully I have a vote for the IBHOF. And Duncan Dokiwari should book a flight to Canastota right now.

 

It's a question of how hard he hit, nothing more and nothing less. He sure hit lesser opponents, ones who he could land solidly on, damn hard.

You seem triggered when the likes of Williams and Liston are brought up. Just take a few breaths and relax mate.

 

It's very odd to say the least. He says everyone drools over his physique, yet he's the only person I see bringing it up on a consistent basis.

 

He's worse than Chok imo. Do you remember when I made this post ?

Literally everyone could see I was joking..... except Compton.

His utter lack of awareness for someone who's supposed to be this big time historian, never ceases to amaze me. Incredible.

 

Oh wait, so now we are pretending Williams had something other than his physique and a padded record to prove he was some all time great puncher?? Make up your minds.

 

Can you show me one person who said Williams was some ATG puncher? Or are you just manufacturing strawmen again?

 

There was another one, always going on about William’s oiled pecs or some other such claptrap - once it was duly highlighted as his own obsession, no one else’s, he instantly went quiet on it. Now his admiration for The Big Cat is held in due silence.

 

Holy **** I remember that guy. I've got the clown on ignore along with the rest of his (permabanned) alts. An utter waste of time.

 

Even historians can be heavily biased in some areas

 

Who doesn't love big p̶e̶c̶k̶e̶r̶s̶ pecs

 

It's one thing to be biased. It's another to have less awareness than a bag of rocks.

 

That's completely untrue. Williams first entered the ratings after knocking out John Holman back in 1957.

 

It's rather bizzare!

 

But Rademacher did?