If Usyk Beats Fury is he number 1 P4P

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Jan 19, 2024.


Is Usyk number 1 if he beats Fury

Poll closed Feb 2, 2024.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

    11.7%
  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Saw Mario Lopez say that if Usyk beats Fury he's number 1 P4P. Does a win vs Fury jump him to the top spot?
     
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  2. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disturbing how Inoue's and Usyk's achievement are being lowballed to accommodate the idea that Crawfraud should be ranked above them.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Not sure why people act like he's not in the conversation now for being #1. I personally have him at #2 behind Inoue but you can certainly make a strong case for him being #1 too. If he beats Belly it's not even debatable whether he is or not.
     
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  4. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even if he doesn't he's 'P4P' no.1 just based on his cruiserweight performance, and then we add the wins at HW where he beat fighters far bigger. better than any of these others.

    We all know if he was born in Murica and grew up in 'Philly' or 'Detroit' they'd already be producing movies about him and erecting statues, and he'd be considered the greatest fighter who ever lived.
     
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  5. Ronin Pham

    Ronin Pham Member Full Member

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    Sure i think so. It can change as the year goes on though. He might not end up as #1 P4P depending on what fights happen during the year.
     
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  6. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    He is already p4p #1 IMO. But definitely. Best P4P fighter since Mayweather.
     
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  7. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he beats Fury’s then as the undefeated and undisputed heavyweight champion, in reality he is automatically the best fighter in the world based on the simple but undeniable fact that he could or would be favoured to beat any other boxer in the world in a boxing match.

    As for in mythical P4P terms, I still think that puts him above fighters like Crawford and Inoue, who are undoubtedly great multi weight champs, but I still think it’s a more impressive feat moving up from cruiserweight and still able to win all the belts and becoming undisputed against established incumbent champions like Fury and Joshua who still outweigh him by 30-40+ pounds as well as being clearly taller, stronger and harder hitting than him.
     
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  8. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Always has been

    But boxing fans always seem to miss the true talent, Fury included.

    Both of these men before they fell out of prime have been doing things men of their size should not be able to do and have never been able to do. They are the first of their kind and they were ignored.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He won and unified all of his world titles in his opponent's backyards and he has only had two Ukrainian officials for all his world title fights. It's extremely common for fighters from across the pond to have a full set of home officials for world title fights against foreigners over there. How does that impact things? It's huge. Loma would at very worst have one loss right now if he had home officials and countless other fighters would've become world champions or never lost their belts

    He unified a very strong CW division in just 15 fights and won 3/4 of the belts at HW in just 19 fights and has only had one 'home' fight since his 9th fight and that was in Poland

    He's gone through a murderer's row of murderous punching KO artists and legit bangers like no other current champ, some of the hardest punchers in the sport, a number of whom way bigger than him

    Crawford has only fought one genuine legit banger his size and he was dropped by the them. Imagine what the power of a same size Gassiev, Briedis or a way bigger AJ and Dubois would do to that mandible and those are just a few of the punchers Usyk has fought.

    Usyk is crossing a minefield everytime he fights. One tiny mistake and it can be game over. He's playing the video game the old fashioned way with 3 lives and no save points

    And he's giving away huge physical advantages up at HW that no one else in the P4P top 10 is nor even close. That's not even the definition of P4P it's actually much more impressive
     
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  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I voted no, but think there won't be much between Inoue and Usyk if Usyk beats Fury. Inoue has climbed through more divisions and became undisputed in two weight classes in two years time. But how do you compare these moves through the weights? And I don't think Inoue has beaten anyone as good as Fury. So either answer is good to me.
     
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  11. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    So, Crawford's win over Spence wasn't lowballed? Spence was a bad dude, the fight was 50/50, up until the opening bell rang, then Spence was drained, had brain damage etc. If Crawford never faced Spence at 147, he would have been crucified. Crawford goes out and destroys Spence and he gets zero credit.

    That being said, Crawford, Inoue and If Usyk beats Fury, all make a case for #1. At this point I have to favor Inoue over Crawford for #1. Just slightly.
     
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  12. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Change title to when he beats Fury.
     
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  13. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    He already is my No1 pfp
     
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  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Unless Fury is well over the hill Usyk cannot beat him.
     
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  15. Walcott

    Walcott Active Member Full Member

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    P4P means nothing, it's just fantasy, he will simply be the best fighter on the planet.
     
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