What should Crawford be doing instead of sitting around?

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  1. MetalLicker

    MetalLicker I Am Full Member

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    After his big win against Spence, nothing is going on. No rematch has been announced. Who knows what the hell is going on with Spence.

    He dismissed fighting Ennis. He wanted to fight Jermell Charlo, but Charlo is no longer a viable fight after him losing to Canelo and losing his WBO belt.

    He seems to be waiting for the Canelo sweepstakes, but Canelo will likely fight Munguia in May if he beats Ryder.

    He's a great fighter, but he needs to be active. He needs to stop waiting and make something happen. He can consider fighting these fighters:

    - Jaron Ennis
    - Eimantas Stanionis
    - Tim Tszyu
    - Victor Ortiz
     
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  2. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He needs to fond Charlo or Tszyu if hes not going to stay at 147 and fight Boots.
    Just start collecting straps until another legacy fight opens up
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I assume he's tied into a rematch with Spence and can't do anything until that happens. If I were PBC I'd delay the fight for as long as possible, they tried to age him out before with all the delays, maybe delaying for a year might help Spence's chances. We saw them drag their feet with the Fury/Wilder rematch too, probably hoping Fury would derail with all that down time and eventually when Fury got sick of waiting and made the fight with Joshua, it forced PBC's hand to step in and make the fight finally happen.

    So unfortunately until PBC decide to do something to finalise the fight, he's kind of side lined.
     
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  4. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He got screwed by having to be forced into another rematch with Spence at the same time if he had the opportunity he should have just taken the Ennis fight & shut down all that over hype he has been receiving by putting an end to it as he would have been fresh & active enough to do so, more bad luck for Crawford.

    At least he has used his spare time to good use by reminding the whole world how great & unstoppable he always was.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Despite being chronologically older than Spence the waiting game plays into Crawfords favor. The older man is younger in ring years.
     
  6. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

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    I don't know how long Crawford has left before he can move on, or how long Spence has before the rematch clause is activated.

    I think Spence doesn't fancy the rematch and may retire. Whereas, I think Crawford will move up to SW to dominate Jermell.
     
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  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Victor Ortiz should be a moderately easy fight and a good way to stay busy. Should be easy to make, I don't see Ortiz being a diva in negotiations. That fight can happen as soon as February, why not?

    Take a few months off, if no word from Spence fight Boots in July/August.

    If still no word from Spence by the end of the year, retire or move up to 154.

    He needs to forget about Canelo, it isn't happening.
     
  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Pretty sure he is locked down with that rematch clause since Spence enacted it. So until they fight again, Spence cancels it, or contract ages out he is stuck on shelf.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To act like Spence is holding Bud's career hostage due to a rematch clause is a bit much. There was also a rematch clause for Canelo Bivol but Bivol refused to rematch him on the same terms, and as a result both men decided to go different routes and they didn't let that stall their careers. If there was a rematch clause for Spence Bud, wouldn't it be for a title rematch at 147? Usually when there's rematch clauses it would be on the same terms that you fought on the first time. Spence has made it very clear that he's not returning to 147, so how can he hold a rematch clause over Bud if it's not in the same weight class of the first fight? This idea that now Bud has to fight Spence in a non-title rematch at 154 and can't fight anyone else until that happens sounds abusrd.
     
  10. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    What part of contract do you have a hard time with?

    A recent rematch clause that killed Fury/Joshua.

    How did this mess come to pass?

    That is simple:

    • Fury signed a contract with a rematch clause to fight Wilder a third time in their agreement for a second fight; he tried to get out of it, but it contained a binding arbitration clause, which Wilder invoked, and won.
    • Arum’s lawyers believed because the rematch was not held in a timely manner, that the clause was null and void, and advised Arum and Fury of that, and they advised Hearn and his lawyers that.
    • If Fury had refused to honor the arbitration order, or get Wilder to agree to take step-aside money and other considerations, he would be liable for tens of millions in damages.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And in that situation the binding rematch clause involved fighting for the title. Spence has made it clear that he is not interested in fighting again at 147. When contracts are binding it typically involves rematching for the title that was fought for in the first fight. I've never heard of a rematch clause in which the winner of a title fight is obligated to rematch the loser, not for the title that was won, but in another weight class for in a non-title fight? I've never heard of such a thing, which is why this is a very unusual situation.

    When rematch clauses are binding, typically it's because the fighter who won is required to defend the title against the fighter he won it from again, especially in unification title fights where multiple titles are involved, not just in a random non-title fight in another weight class. That's the difference.
     
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  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Dude they posted some of the clause. One of it was the winner gets to pick the weight. Contracts just aren't about the belt. Spence asked for 154 and the winner Crawford obliged. Crawford could have said keep it at 147 but he wants to shut up the Spence crowd so he said cool, make it 154. Probably the most money fight he can also make.

    So again, what part of contract do you have a hard time understanding?
     
  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is there anyone who wants to see Bud dynamite Spence again? Not me, it's hard to say where Bud goes from here. I'd like to see Haney come to 147 and go after Bud
     
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  14. SpeedKills

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    Crawford is stuck in a PBC contract like Teofimo said. He should’ve made them stick to the contract (Spence rematch must happen within 2023), but I’m guessing they flashed money in his eyes and greed got the best of him. Now he has to retire (or fake retire like Floyd did to get out of the Hoya rematch).
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...s-tim-tszyu-crawford-wants-tszyu-next.715578/