Best heavyweight to never win a world title?

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  1. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who was the best heavyweight fighter who never won a world title?

    For me the most obvious name is Sam Langford. Of the more recent guys David Tua would be one to consider, alongside Ike Ibeaubuchi who I think was a world class fighter during his brief professional career. I also don’t consider the WBA Regular title a legitimate world title so guys like Povetkin in my eyes were never fully fledged world champions. I’d consider him too in this conversation although I think he’s somewhat overrated and there are a few other guys I’d take over him.
     
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  2. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Razor Ruddock
     
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    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HM- Gary Mason
     
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  4. Unique Way

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    Not even close. Resume is too thin. Compare his resume against Tua's one - the difference is immense
     
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    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe Povetkin
     
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    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lost to Monte Barrett... Mason,s only loss was against L Lewis !!
     
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    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    37-1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbash
     
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  8. Unique Way

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    So what? Faruq Saleem is 38-1, does it make him better than guys like Quarry, Tua, Wills?
     
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    He lost to a guy who had a 3-4 record !!!!
     
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    And his best win was either past it Biggs or past it Tillis neither of whom was ever top 10 fighter even in their primes.

    Tua beat 4 HW world champions (Ruiz, Rahman, Maskaev and Moorer) and whole bunch of decent fringe contenders. Guys like Oquendo, Nicholson, Izon were much better than those versions of Biggs and Tillis.
     
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  11. Veys9

    Veys9 Let's go Champ! Full Member

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    Definitively. He was constantly in the top 10 and way better than certain guys who held the belts... It's unsatisfying that he only held the regular title.
     
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  12. hobby rider

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    Can’t wait to read 4 paragraphs from Neetszchean/short round/Redbeard on how it is Ortiz.

    The poor guy still hasn’t got over that absolute shut out of Wilder followed by the No Mas by Wallin that happened in December.
     
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  13. KINGWILDER

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    That guy had mean power but after the Tyson fights I felt he never really reached his potential. Lewis utterly crushed him which I was shocked by. Still a very good pick.
     
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    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thought the exact same after I made this thread. He’s been having a complete meltdown for nearly a month, absolute comedy gold.

    Luis Ortiz was a very solid contender but there is no argument for me being considered in this conversation. One win over one decent contender in Jennings and a strong losing effort against Wilder (who imo is overrated) does not qualify him for this conversation. Guys like Povetkin, Ruddock, Langford, and Tua all did far more.
     
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  15. ConfusedGuy

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    Sam Langford is the correct answer.
     
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