Wilder vs Povetkin

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Tkin favored but Wilder has a punchers chance
     
  2. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    What we do know is wilder about turned in uk and ran straight back to Americwar and started a trend of turning down his biggest paydays
    Back to fighting for half a mill on americwarn telly fighting none ranked guys
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Povetkin would have smashed him up and Wilder knew it
     
  4. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it had happened as intended in Moscow in 2016 I would have to favour Povetkin.
     
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  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Molina, Duhaupas and Szpilka come to mind.
    Povetkin should have been the clear favorite.

    Does anyone remember the odds before Povetkin got popped?
     
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  6. Mickea4

    Mickea4 Active Member Full Member

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    Been thinking about this one more and more through the day for some reason and while I initially said 9/10 times Povetkin mops the floor with Wilder, I've reassessed.

    9/10 times, Povetkin wipes the floor with Wilder and then frogmarches him to Skid Row
     
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  7. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Povetkin with beautiful that uppercut
     
  8. GGGfans

    GGGfans Active Member Full Member

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    Povetkin by knockout and perhaps in the first three rounds.
     
  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    2014-16 Povetkin by KO. He was over the hill after that same as Wilder is now.
     
  10. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    It's a shame Wilder pussed out of this fight just because Povs tested positive for a bit of drugs. It would have saved us a lot of Joshua vs Wilder sham hype these past five or so years. But fair play to Wilder for recognising he would never have won a fight like that. Povs back then was a beast who would have brutally exposed him worse than Parker and then knocked him spark out with an overhand right left hook left hook left hook combo. Wilder dodged a bullet and kept the hype flame burning for a good few years till he ran into comeback Fury and bit off more than he could chew.
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Povetkin would've sparked him out cold in HL reel fashion and with little fuss too. It wouldn't even be competitive Povetkin would either knock him senseless with a right hand over the top and then finish him off with the follow up attack or close the distance and knock him spark out with left and right hooks.
     
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  12. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Knowing what we now know about Wilder (despite the fact most people don't wanna admit it) and that you are really gonna have to plant him into the ground senseless to beat him, I don't think Povetkin would've been able to avoid him without getting clipped for a full 12. I really don't.

    Look, I don't like Wilder either but let's quit acting like he's gonna fold up and shatter if he gets hit, he's not. There shouldn't be anymore questions like that about him................And he's still gonna have the same exact velocity coming from that right hand even hurt................
     
  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Serious question, what made Povetkin PED suspension fake? I remember he popped dirty but didn't look into it all
     
  14. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL,

    Are you sure you are talking about the right fighter ?

    \Whats Povetkin's best win, cream puff Chambers who busted him up, Marco "Nobody" Huck or shot Byrd/Rahman ?

    The same Povetkin who could never get a legit Heavyweight ABC belt trinket ?

    The same Povetkin who hid in Russia claiming "I am not ready " for WK ?

    The same Povetkin when finally facing
    WK was rag dolled like a ;little kid while B/C level Purrity/sanders/Brewster walked thru WK like a hot knife thru butter ?

    The same Povetkin who was busted noit once but twice for PED's ?

    The same Povetkin who never ever won a meaningful fight at the top level vs a top level fighter and no, Takam,lol, aint top level neither is punchbag Shyte.

    The same Povetkin who was stopped by the Bodybuilder who spit his mouth piece out and quit in his very next fight vs a morbid obese short stack Burrito stand owner ?

    Are we talking about the same Povetkin ?
     
  15. BlackDog

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    You need to look at this topic from a broader perspective, adding some knowledge and logical thinking.

    Wilder team do everything to not fight him and make it as long as possible. 2,5 years Povetkin wait for this fight as official pretendent (number 1 in WBC).
    Riabinski (manager of Alexander) told back then that talking with Wilder team is very hard.

    First case was about meldonium. Very popular and for long time full acepted medicine. They forbidden this not soo long before their fight.

    They find in one of few test some micro 0,0000 nanogram in Povetkin organizm and decide to cancel fight immediately.
    They quickly proven fact that VADA have no idea about this how meldonium work and proven that there is no way Sasha took in camp. This have no sense if You know how meldonium work.

    They clear him but off course Wilder who run away back to home same day have open possibility to go other way...

    Next doping case is even more funny. They force Sasha to fight with Stiverne because he must again wait for Wilder. Their fight supposed be for WBC temporary champion belts.

    And then Povetkin who excatly knew that they will check him with full force was catch again... And what he took? Medicine called Ostarine... Ostarine effects start to be visible after weeks...
    Soo Sasha, who knew he will be tested again and again took medicine which is weak and start working best after second week of using??

    He must be mental disabled...
    Off course they find it and banned him even when next test and prev show nothing. A special previous one where he was clear show that he must be idiot taking this kind of drug when profits its more long term...

    I know that in sport on that level almost all took PEDS and Im far away from thinking that Alexander always was clear. But for God sake...
    He for sure dont took ostarine then for Stiverne fight...

    That was probably just idea how to remove him from Wilder carrer.
    They avoid him soo long, they knew that Riabinski got more money and can organize this fight in his way and they just decide to remove Povetkin with PEDS case.

    But that's my opinion. I never force anybody to see this like me because end of the day I have no 100% evidence and proof.

    I remeber I was very angry on Sasha at the begining but later when thinking about it more I just cant belive in official version. Russian team are not ******ed people. They will not touch **** like ostarine in fight where Sasha was favorite where whole antidoping aggency look on their every step.