Wilder vs Povetkin

Well the Wilder hype train hadn’t even got going back then and if that fight went ahead it most likely never would have done.

 

I'm basing that on his entire career. He has ultimately reacted to punches by different opponents in the same manner. The Fury fights are simply a baseline of the limits of Wilder's durability. He's been hit enough by different guys that there's more than enough anecdotal evidence to make that assumption now.

 

He did just that in the second Fury fight. Jacked it in.

 

Yes, I can't think of another fighter whose team that managed to con the public into thinking he was top level for so many years. You even still have some delusional victims from that epic propaganda job claiming Wilder would still have a chance with Joshua now, or that the only reason Parker beat him was because he got ruined by the Fury fights. Still, on some level I did enjoy the hype show, and watching the Wilder fans' bubble burst when they realise how they've been taken in was quite satisfying, as is the mop up job afterwards.

I don't agree that Joshua becoming undisputed would have been a bad thing if he genuinely earned it, and at the time I can't think of a better HW than him. At some point Usyk would have come along and taken the belts from him anyway, and we wouldn't have had to deal with the clown show that is Fury vs Usyk since Fury would have been kept out in the cold.

 

No he didn't, he got beat up badly. He didn't fold.

 

How was Ortiz avoided by Joshua when he refused to fight him for a career high payday? And how come none of these "fight anyone anywhere" types like Carlos Takam or Jerry Forrest have never shared a ring with him? Why is it always the absolute dregs that no one has ever heard of?

 

He also looked pretty good against Oscar Rivas before he got KTFO. Did better than everyone but Dillian Whyte who got splattered by Joshua and then Povetkin.

 

Wilder has been one shot KOed before. When has Povetkin ever been KOed with one punch? Chin-wise Povetkin is leagues more proven than Wilder. He's also capable of one punch KOs (Duhaupas, Whyte, Takam, etc).

And what quality of smaller opponent did Wilder ever demonstrate this unorthodox defence on? Cement footed Stiverne? Cement footed Ortiz? Err... who else?

 

Never took a Whyte left hook and got up. Never took a Wlad right hand and got up. Never took a Povetkin uppercut and got up.

He hasn't fought anyone that would be considered a hard puncher and actually taken a solid shot off them. His chin is, like the rest of his mythical qualities, completely unproven.

 

Shelled up in the corner with Bambi-eyes looking so helpless that his corner were forced to throw in the towel? Yeah, he jacked it in.

Won back some respect in that third fight, but the stain of that quit job will never be fully erased.

 

Look man............He took that ass whoopin like a man in both fights (after fight excuses notwithstanding). The corner throwing in a towel when you getting destroyed and you protest immediately isn't "jacking it in"

Please stop making me defend Wilder, I dislike him immensely

 

That doesn't take away the Joyce fight. As a matter of fact Jennings was doing a better job against Rivas until the KO. Also put on a decent performance against Klitschko pre Fury. He was a solid contender, or at least bottom of the top 10. Opponents like Perez were ranked when he beat them. Jennings was actually above Wilder iirc and for good reason

 

You know what? You're right. Any fighter that's taking a one-sided beating, getting knocked down repeatedly, but getting up every time, and who ends up being waved off by a third party despite protestations in the immediate aftermath, can't really be called a quitter.

I see @MarkusFlorez99 agrees with you.

 

His corner only saved him from the embarrassment of the referee stopping him or him taking a beating he couldn't recover from... He was just too thick to see it.

Yes, he took a whoppin from a pillowfist like a man... But that doesn't automatically make him durable, just determined.