Kostya Tszyu vs Errol Spence

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Kostya vs Errol

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah you are right Kostya Tszyu was a total coward.
     
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  2. Serge

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    Kostya would send Crawford to the shadow realm, let alone Spence.

    Kostya like most of these deep Soviet brothers and in complete contrast to all these have gloves won't travel deck-stacking chickens from across the pond who fight on a deck heavily stacked in their favour 100% or 99% of the time where they never get robbed against foreigners but foreigners get robbed most of the time over there, he was a fearless road warrior who fought on the road or in his opponents backyards many times.

    Spence forged an entire career on cleaning out 147 of all its career 140s and he only ever fought 2 career 147 pounder champs in his entire career both of whom he struggled badly against

    And, like Crawford, he's barely fought any legit punchers, let alone ones his size and despite that he's still been hurt multiple times by featherfists and average punchers to the extent he has to keep spitting his mouthpiece out to buy himself time.

    There's no way that suspect chin of his is standing up to the thunderous power, laser precision accuracy and speed of Kostya's even though the later is a 140 pounder

    Imagine the crap Beterbiev would get for forging a career cleaning out 175 of all its career 168 pounders and BJS who came up from 160 and only ever facing 2 career 175 pounder world champs both of whom he went life and death against, one of whom eked past by the skin of his teeth?

    Crawford's opposition is weak as hell for a 40 fight vet and top 5 P4P star. The first chance he gets to face a power punching athletic phenom who can match him for size and reach after spending his entire career beating up on C and D level leprechauns, plodders, featherfists or average punchers at best and what does he do? He tucks tail and bolts for the woods because he knows the risk of him getting KTFO is infinitely higher than it was against all those featherfisted to average punching leprechauns and C and D level cripples and nonathletic plodders

    Not to mention all the hospital raids he's been on to find opponents: Spence car crash. Porter double hip replacement surgery. Brook double broken eye sockets. Benavidez reduced to being a peg-leg cripple after getting shot to the leg etc.

    The only time he's fought a prime legit banger his size in 40 fights (Mean Machine) he got dropped by them. Super Boots will knock his ass smooth out and Terry damn well knows it too.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Look at this bunch of misfits. It's like a convention for featherfists, leprechauns, cripples and C and D level nonathletic plodders. All bar one of whom he fought at home :lol:

    40 fights spanning three divisions and this is what you get? Super Boots would stretch him out cold on his back. Guaranteed

    And Crawford, unlike Spence, is actually a P4P talent. But Kostya would sleep him too

    Klimov
    Postol
    Burns
    Indongo
    Beltran
    Jean
    Lundy
    Horn
    Diaz
    Dulorme
    Khan - shot
    Benavidez
    Porter
    Brook - shot
    Avanesyan
    Molina
    Egis
    Gamboa
    Spence
     
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  4. steviebruno

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    Smh... that's an emotional response and it shuts down dialogue. He didn't rematch Phillips despite having the opportunity to do so for years. He also quit vs. Hatton and retired from the sport instead of trying again. We cannot discuss Kostya Tsyzu and simply pretend that these things did not occur. It's the elephant in the room.

    He wasn' t a coward, but he wasn't especially brave, either... and maybe, just maybe, not quite as great as you seem to think he was. He never even tried to move up to 147 for bigger fights, but now he's still winning hypothetical welterweight matchups.
     
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  5. The Cryptkeeper

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    Show some evidence that Tszyu dodged Vince Phillips.


    I’ll wait…
     
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  6. melhear

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    Yeah well, unforunately Kostya DID HAVE A BEAUTIFUL RIGHT HAND
     
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  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Whose pretending that these things did not occur? It's a hypothetical match up so an argument can be made for both guys. Who has Spence beaten that was better than Tszyu? Tszyu retired after the Hatton loss because he was 35 he suffered bruising on the brain and realized he didn't have it anymore to compete with young hungry guys like Hatton. If Phillips had beaten Sharmba Mitchell in the eliminator Tszyu would've rematched him but Mitchell won so Tsyzyu fought Mitchell and knocked him out in 3 rounds.
     
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  8. The Cryptkeeper

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    I mean we have a complete ignoramus in here claiming that Tszyu ducked Phillips and fought (and destroyed) the following guys instead:

    Hurtado (28-1, only loss to legend Whitaker)
    Rueles (52-3, one of which was to ODLH)
    Gonzalez (42-1-1, draw with Chavez loss to ODLH)
    Mitchell twice.

    Oh and the undefeated next big thing Zab Judah…who Tszyu made perform the best chicken dance in the history of prizefighting.

    But yeah, he was scared of Vince Phillips. Oh my effing god. Every guy listed above was inarguably better, greater and had a higher profile than Phillips.
     
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  9. MidniteProwler

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    Yep and then Judah went on to unify the Welterweight division but Tszyu beating a welterweight like Spence is just too far fetched LOL
     
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  10. The Cryptkeeper

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    Spence doesn’t last 4 rounds before Tszyu sleeps him. It’s not even a close fight.
     
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  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I think Tszyu would win I am not sure how long it goes but if Spence couldn't stop a blown up lightweight like Mikey Garcia I don't see how he stops Tszyu. Tszyu never had a problem with bigger guys he usually was the shorter fighter I remember seeing a tape of his fight with the tall rangy Hugo Pineda, Tszyu broke him down and took him out.
     
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  12. melhear

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    Tszyu would bash Spence from pillar to post. Not even a close fight.
     
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  13. steviebruno

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    This is dumb. He lost to him and then never PURSUED a rematch, which he could have easily gotten. Why is that?
     
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  14. steviebruno

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    So he would've fought a pushing 40 Vince Phillips five years after he lost to him? How brave. LOL
     
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  15. NoChin

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    Good fight that one. K.T Got dropped too in the first but figured him out then stopped him.

    Great, great fight.
     
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