Rehydration

Tszyu. Weighs like 8-10 kgs heavier on fight day.

 

Devin Haney

 

14.5lb is a massive cut at that weight class, probably equivalent to 20+lb cut up at smw.

To put that into perspective, Froch cut around 10lb at smw or under I think he said. Groves was a bigger cutter than Froch, probably around 15lb or so and then Groves was saying that he noticed Badou Jack was much bigger than him and he felt he needed to get more size. So how much was Jack cutting!?

The best example I've seen of the advantage of 'weight bullying' is the mma fighter Darren Till. He was famous for his massive cut, even filmed it, and for a while there was fearless, overpowering people, KO'ing all these smaller opponents, and clearly bullying sparring partners too. Then he moved up and suddenly became a cautious point fighter who didn't want to engage too much, he was nowhere near the fighter he was. People might claim it was because he got KO'd by Masvidal. But it was clearly mainly because he didn't feel big enough to overpower anyone now. So people acting like this tactic isn't massively advantageous are just lying to protect their hero.

 

I think Haney has the record so far, rehydrating 24lbs from 140.

 

Haney waa literally like MW+ for his fight against Loma. Canelo is no exception...he's the norm. Look no further than other weight bullies like Charlos and Spence or Benavidez

 

The people who are in denial about weight bullying are very strange. You’re going to hit harder, have improved punch resistance , and have more strength when weighing 10lbs+ more than your opponent.

I mean do we really think Haney, the guy who boils down from 165lbs, would be able to compete at 154lbs? He’d be up against guys 5’9 upwards have similar/long reach and who hit much harder than tiny Lomachenko. I can’t imagine Haney taking clean shots from 140lb fighter let along someone at 147lbs-154lbs. He was getting rocked by shot old midget Linares, old leprechaun Loma and Jojo Diaz

 

I reckon Hurd may have been worse

 

Apparently Jamie McDonnell was 143 lbs for his 118 lb fight against Naoya Inoue; probably the most egregious example of rehydration I can think of.

 

Gilberto Ramirez rehydrated 29.25lbs when he fought Dominic Boesel, going from 174.75lbs to 204lbs. All that weight didn't help him much against Bivol though.

 

Might be incorrect but I thought Daniel Santos rehydrated to 180 from 154 vs. Margarito

 

There are several examples of bigger cuts that I know of and probably lots that we don't. Haney was 165 lbs in the ring for Prograis, Maidana was 17 lbs heavier than Floyd for their rematch (which would make him 166-167), Clottey was 169 for one of his WW fights, Trout was over 170 when he faced Canelo (as was Canelo himself), Salido is claimed to have been 145, which seems likely since he couldn't make weight, for Loma and one of Inoue's recent opponents (forget which) is said to have been in the 140's.

 

How was the weight an advantage for Haney exactly? Many believe Loma won that fight easily. Kinda defeats the argument against weight bullying. Possibly prevented a KO?

That being said, there should be a limit on how much weight can be gained after the weigh in. I say no more than 10 pounds. The final weigh should take place 15 minutes before the fight, therefore no more gain. A fighter comes in over, 2 points deducted automatically.

At least this way fighters will be fighting closer to their natural weight.

 

This may sound like a daft question, but how are people rehydrating or putting on so much weight back within a day?