Muhammad Ali vs Lennox Lewis

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Ali vs Lewis

  1. Ali KO/TKO/RTD

  2. Ali points

  3. Draw

  4. Lewis points

  5. Lewis KO/TKO/RTD

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Ali was a better puncher than either McCall or Rahman.
     
  2. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    He was? Well, that sure comes as a surprice for me, Sir...
     
  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Norton was a pressure fighter. Lennox was a safety-first out boxer. One is not a proxy for the other. That being said these cross era comparisons are difficult.
     
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  4. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    I have the impression that those hypothetical H2H matches are quickly becoming a boring exercise on "The bigger guy wins and there is nothing we can do about that".

    Of course, we all know size matters in boxing and sometimes physical differences are simply too wide and big to be overcome. But there is a lot more to boxing than just sheer size.

    As a personal opinion I think Ali wins but I don't totally discard Lewis' chances, and I agree he has significant physical advantages over Ali. Who knows? Maybe Lewis even has the upper hand.
    But this whole “Lewis is bigger than Ali, therefore Lewis defeats Ali” argument in some posts is becoming kinda a tiresome tautology by now.
     
  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Who did either guy stop other than Lewis? Ali stopped an iron jawed Bonavena, was the only guy to stop Foreman, was the only guy besides Foreman to stop a prime Ron Lyle. Who did Rahman or McCall stop to make them big punchers?
     
  6. Pugilistic Punk

    Pugilistic Punk New Member Full Member

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    I'm really surprised with many people saying either Ali or Lewis wins this easily. It's a very close fight imo and nobody is knocking out each other also imo.

    I think Lewis wins this but idk if this is a 15 or 12 round fight. If 15, then Ali has more chances.
     
  7. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes...He beats a shopworn past his prime Ali of the Spinks fights in 1978...but Ali of 1963-1967?...That's a different proposition...
     
  8. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Oscar and Forman ran out of gas...pure and simple...
     
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  9. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Oscar did not run out of gas. Ali caught him with a beautiful hook.
     
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  10. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That Ali was truly remarkable and I think, given access modern training and conditioning, he would beat any heavyweight in history.

    Prime Holmes, Lewis, Fury, Tyson, Louis would all be tough fights still.
     
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  11. NoChin

    NoChin Sir Tim Tszyu - Knighted! Full Member

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    Would be a great fight. Imagine Ali with today's training. Scary.
     
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  12. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aren't these mythical matchups supposed to be when both combatants are at their absolute best? Why are we bringing up the Shavers fight? Teddy Brenner said he would never promote an Ali fight at the Garden after seeing the punishment he took and told his manager that if Ali was ever to fight again at the Garden they would have to replace him.
     
  13. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    Pre exile Ali--particularly the Ali of 1967 vintage wins a UD. But Lewis would not be an easy opponent given his size and technical skills.
     
  14. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali never had any issue with size. He would outspeed and outbox Lewis. In a 15 round bout no chance Lewis sees the final bell. Lewis ends the bout with greatly misshapen facial features which ultimately ends the fight. Ali is unmarked.
     
  15. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Norton never fought prime Ali. Prime Ali, no chance Lewis sees the 15th round. He is cut to ribbons.