Again this was just explored as a possibility. But having more time being on the juice and come even in a better shape is also a good explanation, h ? I'm 34 and i'm in a lot better body shape than Fury though. But body shape is different than actual Boxing shape. Could be related obviously, but doesn't need to be so. He is a Pro Boxer and in terms of let's call it a functional shape, he is miles above me. But here is the thing. When you have been abusing your body for quite awhile, your body is not going to respond magically like that, maybe it could, if you are in your 20s., but not in your mid 30s. Also it's not like Fury hasn't been training all this years, but somehow just now clicked. Getting in shape in your mid 30s is a lot harder than doing that in your 20s. or early 30s. Also he is doing this in the span of just a few months, when previously his body looked like **** even though he was supposedly in a "great shape". Also it's one thing to be in shape for years, then gain some weight, and then lose it and get back to your shape. Then suddenly at 35 to hit your absolutely best shape ever in just a couple of months. I don't buy this s****, neither anyone that knows anything about how body works, fitness, health, training, etc. Pretty much every single body transformation i have seen on people in their 30s. is with PEDS.
I agree with others, having to sustain a massive calorific deficit is not conducive to a good camp, regardless of how impressive Fury's physique looks at the end of it. Together with the rumours he wasn't having the best of sparring things are starting to piece together.
I am pretty sure I might be more knowledgeable on this matter. Everyone has a caloric baseline. Mine is roughly 2000 calories. For me to loose weight, most would say I would have to eat less than that. The problem with being in an caloric deficit due to diet restrictions is that it hampers body functions such as; hormone production and insulin regulation, to name a few. This is why crash diets "don´t work". The body can´t function properly on a 1200 calorie diet and in fact the weight loss would slow because the body turns to "starvation" mode. You can overwrite this limitation with exercise. My current baseline is roughly 2000 calories. If I eat that amount, I won´t loose weight or gain any. Well, I eat about 3000 calories a day and I am still loosing fat. Why? Because I exercise that much. I box roughly 3 times a week and I do daily cardio. My body is perfectly fine and the weight is coming off really fast. I got a little chubby over the last 12 months and now it´s all coming off smoothly. This while getting physically stronger as I got into working with kettle-bells. In the last few months I have improved my run time, the amount I can lift comfortably and the amount of rounds I can spar without getting dead tired. This works because I eat well, I eat healthy, I let my body recover and I don´t limit myself.
If You add more training You Burn more and STILL YOU ARE ON deficit. And still You are not on top shape then. Special when it long therm process and You do this months. That's why You are strongest when You eat more. Ask bodybuilder how strong they are few days prev competition and how strong they are off season.
In this case I think it does. Fury has relied not just on skill but height, weight, and long ass arms. Add to that actual working muscle and what I assume will be increased cardio capacity due to fat loss. These are significant factors imo.
Having a double training camp sometimes works though. I think Andy Ruiz v Joshua 1 - Andy had a double camp - 16 weeks. Same with Jaison 'Bananas' Rosario v Julian Williams
Fury in the best shape of his life, blah, blah, blah. Unfortunately for him and what most of his fans fail to see is, his opponent has been in the best shape of his life for all of his professional career. Massive difference.
I don't know how knowledgeable you are, cause i don't know you, and i don't question it. Caloric baseline you are talking it's named as caloric balance as i already stated. And let me tell you something. Things work a lot differently when we are talking about 60kg. athlete, and 120kg. athlete. It's essentially different ball game. So i may have more understanding, as since 18 i was always above the 100kg. category. I was gaining till 140kg(when i was on sweet stuffs). Currently i'm at 102kg. And i have working with top nutritionist and strength and conditioning trainers. For nutritionist i have used from my country. For strength and conditioning quite a few, as well as the famous Muay Thai one Don Heatrick programs. I have talk about with many, many people about this topic as i'm a martial arts athlete my whole life and the only answer for somehow losing weight and gaining mass at the same time is with PEDS. Now on to your case. You surely still missing the important part. You are eating 3000 calories and you are still supposedly(i don't know, cause i don't see you and don't know if that is true or just you talking bollocks, but i will accept it as true), simply because you are in a caloric deficit. You don't get it, as your formula to calculate your caloric balance is complete bollocks. The formula you are using for the 2k. calorie balance is most probably without adding the physical activity i already mention in my previous post, you somehow managed to miss. It's called Basal Metabolic Rate, without adding your activity level that completely change the number. When you add your physical activity, your caloric balance change completely. For a plain example i'm eating close to 4000 calorie daily(it's different daily for me, as i'm using carb cycling). But this 4000 calories comes with the added physical activities i do. If i remove the physical activity i do, my BMR(Basal Metabolic Rate) will be around 2000. The number is doubled because i do a lot of physical activity. And i'm maintain currently. Again it's simple enough, and people that claim otherwise have no idea, and their formula for calculation is just wrong. Or just like you, they don't include the physical activity they do, and their sum is just not add up. For one last time, there is no other human possible weight. This is a simple math, there is no if or else here. In order to lose weight you have to be in caloric deficit. In order to gain weight you have to be in caloric surpass. Also losing weight is not equal to losing fat. You are losing water, fat and muscle. Trying to lose weight fast will make you lose more muscle. Also gaining weight is not equal to gaining muscle. You are gaining mostly water, then muscle and fat. You can combine the 2 and make it mostly muscle/water gain by simply be on PEDS.
Its not that hard for a man who let himself get out of shape to reconposition. If he was truly back in the shaoe he was for cunningham for example, where he had actual abs, i would be suspicious. But to get back to his wilder 2 shape shouldnt be that hard in a few months if he fixes his diet. Its really not that drastic of a difference if he was just a regular guy lifting weights and cleaning up his diet i wouldnt bat an eyelid at those kinds of results
Yeah he say he is knowledgeable but doesn't realize he is not adding the physical activity he is doing to his formula calculation. He is using Basal Metabolic Rate and think this is his Caloric Balance for maintain just telling you all you need to know how knowledgeable he is. Though everyone can make a mistake and if he is smart he will learn something new today out of this discussion, as i already explaining him in details what he is missing.
Yet there are two types of deficits. One is achieved through caloric intake restriction. The other through exercise and movement. They are not the same.
It's actually that hard, as he was out of shape for years. The Cunningham fight was like what a good 11 years from now, and he was 24. Big difference to how body response. With every year your metabolism is slowing, and it's actually harder. Also your recovery is hit when you are in your mid 30s, again unless you are on the sweet juice, then there is no limit, and a 35+ years old can feel like 10+ years younger self.
No there is not. You are just not adding your physical activity to calculate your caloric balance. Which is what every normal person would do, as that way you have a way clear case how much you have to it, adding everything to the calculation. Otherwise is you are just guessing. For even more plain example. You start subtracting to be in caloric deficit, only when you have calculate your caloric balance, which include your physical activity through the day/week/etc.
While we don't have Usyk physique update Usyk face looked as lean as he has ever been, so he has to be in insane shape. The only concern i have is not that Fury will be juiced to the grill, as i believe AJ was also juiced to the grill on both fights, but the referee and the judges. If they are completely unbiased i have no doubt who wins this fight.
Its still math. If You train more, got more activity You just can eat more without getting fat. But still You must eat less to Burn fat and eat more to gain weight. There is possibility to gain muscle and loss fat same time but this is very limited situation reserved to ppl who start training/comeback after pause like Mr. Bomber said above. This is called "rekompozycja" in Pl. Dont know english Word and to lazy to check it now