How did you score Zhang Hrgovic?

114-113 Zhang

 

A fight of two very different halves from memory. At the time I thought Zhang won it by a round.

 

Yeah I had money on Hrgovic and still thought he lost. I've seen fights stopped for less than how he was reacting after Zhang's punches. Don't have exact scores on me, but Zhang won in my eyes by 2 points.

 

Since he landed 50-60 punches more, that is not out of the question, depending on the criteria of the judges. It's not at all like Fury winning by 12 jabs. Most feel that Zhang won it, but I think we have to remember here that at some point Zhang basically just stopped trying to be competitive.

 

Hrgovic by a point or two for me

 

But you also have to remember that Zhang for the most part was controlling the action. Hrgovic was generally punching Zhang's high guard whilst Zhang walked him down. The amount of times I see punch stats including punches that hit a guard makes them pretty pointless in how I assess a fight.

It doesn't mean much to me if you are throwing ineffective shots to the guard then each time you get hit you look genuinely hurt.

I also have to score the knock down as given by the referee, I can't choose when to score my own knockdowns, or even-out the scoring because I disagree with the referee

So no, I don't think 115-112 (i.e. scoring 8 rounds to Philip) is a viable card for Hrgovic. He was the house fighter and was given a gift.

And Btw I don't disagree with you that Hrgovic took full control in a number of the later rounds, but for those giving 8 rounds of 12, no that is terrible scoring

 

Hrgovic won clearly for me. And the knockdown was not legit imho.

 

+1 This

 

I agree with everything. But punches landed is a metric, and the judges are pretty much at liberty to decide how many punches landed and which metric they find more important.

 

114-113 Hrgovic.

 

True, but within reason.
If a judge is scoring fights quite so liberally based on what would boil down to a game of tag, I suspect a supervisor will have a quiet word with them (I could be wrong on that, my experience is outside of boxing). But I would like to think such personal interpretations would be ironed out at the highest ends of the sport. Though, at the same time, I have to acknowledge everyone scores fights slightly differently. My way certainly won't be "the correct way", merely, my way.

Edit: Just to add, I generally don't tend to argue about cards based on my own personal interpretation, as I am not a trained boxing corner judge (I'm guessing like most of us it's just experience watching the sport and reading the variety of guidelines online).
I like to look at what the consensus is, as I think boxing should at least be scored in a manner that is not a mystery to the boxing fans.
I think the consensus points to 115-112 being too much of an outlier, and for two judges to score it that way (on a boxing card with a number of eyebrow raising results) is a bit murky

 

Zhang hit Hrgovic with a right hook that landed just behind his left ear and it propelled Hrgovic to the canvas. If it wasn't a knockdown what was it?

 

I think you said right. It would be better if NOT a mystery,

 

I had it close for Hrgovic. He won the last several rounds against a tiring but still determined Zhang. People forget that he also scored a KD late in the fight.