Did Roy Jones Jr. really lose to Montell Griffin?

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Did Roy Jones Jr. really lose to Montell Griffin in their first fight?

  1. Yes, if you hit a boxer who is down, you deserve to be disqualified.

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  2. No, this is a classic case of shady refereeing and Oscar level acting by Griffin

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  1. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Legit DQ. But how anyone could have Griffin ahead on the scorecards is beyond me. He was spoiling Jones' work, but he had done almost nothing himself, basically no clean effective punching at all on his part, and he wasn't better than Jones in defense or ring generalship.
     
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  2. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    It's been a while since I've seen the fight but, from memory, I recall it being a fair DQ. And I'm a big Jones fan.
    Griffin was frustrating him, though I never felt Jones was in danger of losing. But he was annoyed and struck Montell when he was down. He obviously corrected things emphatically in the rematch - one of Roy's best performances. That was, for a long time, his only legit loss.
     
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  3. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roy earned that DQ. He drilled him, he actually measured and pin pointed that last shot.......................I love Roy, but that was crazy.
     
  4. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    Montell was giving him fits all night, then Roy lost his cool in frustration when he finally caught up to him. At the time, I thought Montell milked it because Roy was starting to come on and he knew he would have been stopped had he gotten up.

    There were two punches when Griffin was clearly down. The first shot was more grazing, but the second looked like it did land.

    Only Griffin knows how hard it was and whether he faked it or not.
     
  5. Freddy Benson.

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    Yes it was a fair disqualification and there should be a firmer line on fouls. This was not a case of a punch that had been thrown as the guy was in the process of going to the canvas, Jones paused, observed and then threw them.
     
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  6. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes it was a boxer named Joe Walker I believe and man he clocked him literally while Walker was on his knees lol.
     
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    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Zarate was a beast...You never know...
     
  8. Turnip mk3

    Turnip mk3 Active Member Full Member

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    Griffin was a very good boxer. Didn't if beat Toney ? Or did i dream it
     
  9. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Jose Roman...he could have been the first Hispanic world Heavyweight champion....lol
     
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  10. Mediocre Amateur

    Mediocre Amateur New Member Full Member

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    Yes, it was a fair disqualification.
     
  11. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    I've watched this about 3 different times. How the **** did Jones deserve a DQ before even a warning? This is the fight right here in 720p.

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    The referee should of called a knockdown as soon as Griffin hit the ground at 41:49 . Jones was solely focused on Griffin's head, he had no idea Griffin even took a knee from the damage he was taking in round 9. Those two soft ass punches Jones landed after hardly caused any damage, the first punch barely landed and the 2nd punch was partially blocked since the referee had pushed Jones to the side to stop the momentum. that was the worst acting job I've ever seen from a boxer. The fight should of been a no contest if anything. Imagine Rocky Marciano getting DQ'd vs Walcott in the 1st fight cause he landed another soft punch after Walcott was down.
     
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  12. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched the Norris vs Waters fight last night and Terry slugged him on the top of the head while he was down too. He was a recidivist lol
     
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  13. Bokaj

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    Was a while since I saw it, but you can't argue against that he did clearly and intentionally hit him when he was down, but of course those things usually get a slide. If the rules were enforced strictly, boxing history would look quite different.

    But a second punch on a downed opponent is pushing it, though, so that could be it. On the other hand, if Griffin doesn't go for the Nicholas Cage award for overacting...

    Anyhow, I don't think Roy has anyone to blame but himself. He had no excuse for hitting him like that and had to be prepared to pay the consequences.
     
  14. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was having hard time with Coetzer - Bowe was winning but Coetzer was game and Bowe got frustrated and started firing low blows which totally ruined Coetzer
     
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  15. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a fair DQ, so techncially it is a loss. However, Griffin never truly beat Jones in the ring