ESPN: Teófimo Andrés López Rivera vs. Jamaine Ortíz & Keyshawn Davis vs. José Pedraza González RBR

Everbody losing their head over this fight because of hatred of Lopez.The reality is it was a rubbish fight but it was close,get over it

 

It´s called effective aggression.
So it doesn´t matter if a fighter is aggressive or not, unless it´s effective.
Ring generalship clearly belonged to Ortiz as he ran circles around Lopez with ease, who despite his aggression failed to land anything of significance.

Ortiz was in full control of the ring. He dictated the pace and landed the cleaner punches.

But fine, if you want to argue against this... then I don´t know. Give me 6 rounds you thought Lopez clearly won and I will easily disprove one of them.

 

Only if you don´t know how to score.
117-112 was criminal.

 

Lol, of course it is called effective agression. López: very low effective agression. Ortiz: no agression at all. Easy to make the choice.

Was ortiz' agression more effective than Lopez's? no way, to start with because ortiz's agression didnt even exist at all.

Ortiz didnt control ****, the only thing ortiz controlled was the marathon that he had to run because he couldnt control ****. Running without throwing even jabs is not controlling anything, actually it means the exact opposite, fighters do that when they cant control the fight for ****, so they avoid it at all cost.

We are talking about a fight where Ortiz spent so much time running, and only running, that fighters threw about 10 punches per round. Wtf!!! What's that crap?? Ortiz shouldnt even be paid, let alone win more than 2 rounds.

 

Again, you don´t have to be aggressive to win rounds.
It´s not a judging criteria.
What is is effective aggression. Why effective? Because just because a fighter is aggressive doesn´t mean they are winning and should be rewarded points for that.

Lopez wasn´t effective at all. He couldn´t cut off the ring nor could he land anything significant. They exchanged when Ortiz decided to engage.

And yes, Ortiz was in control. He forced Lopez to fight at his pace. I know you despise compubox(so do I)m but it´s clear by the numbers that Lopez was unable to throw his usual amount. This is because Ortiz controlled the ring and the pace.

 

Are you guys serious? How can anyone give this fight to Teo? Daylight robbery that was.

 

Again, you only have to be agressive when the punches cannot decide the rounds. And this is the case here in most of the rounds.

And again, running without throwing anything is not "being in control". Was charlo in control when he fought canelo? he didnt control **** that night, exactly the same Ortiz didnt control **** in this fight.

Clearly we are not going to agree, we should agree on disagree.

 

I know @CST80 picked Lopez but he was hoping for an Ortiz win as were most on here.I have no favouritism regarding either fighter and scored it a draw and stick to my opinion

 

Haney and Tank ****s him up btw. This fight confirms it

 

Its called effective aggression!
If you can´t decide the round based on punches landed then clearly Lopez´s aggression was not effective
We can agree to disagree but you are simply wrong.

You don´t know how to score boxing and this is why guys like Canelo get ridiculous scorecards.

 

It will be a miracle if Wahid fights someone in the top 5 of any division.

 

Because Haney and Tank fight just like Ortiz right?

 

Effective agression, yes, the one with the most effective agression. Even if López's agresion was not very effective, Ortiz's was even less effective, to the point of being non-existent.

Yes, we agree on that too, you are wrong.

 

If I could I'd give them both an L or NC ...It was garbage and I'm still annoyed I woke up at 4 am to watch it