Subriel Matias hacks Devin Haney down and stops him.

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  1. Hyland

    Hyland Pimp C's Father Full Member

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    Realistically by round 6, Haney will slow down. Yes Haney can outbox Matias for a few rounds, but it will require alot of energy expended. Matias throws 88-100 punches per round. He peppers shots at unconventional timing that's hard to counter and time. Matias goes to the body more than anyone at 140. Haney won't have his legs by round 5/6 and he will have to clinch/hug or fight back. Matias has constant pressure and Haney will have to use alot of energy to keep Matias off him. It's fantasy to imagine Haney fighting Matias like he did Prograis. Matias isn't short like Prograis and Matias cuts off the ring and has a jab unless Prograis. Plus Prograis is a one punch fighter, not volume. Matias is the total opposite. This is Haneys worst match up and no one is saying Matias is the best, he just has tools to negate what Haney wants to do.

    A side note: Matias has called out Taylor and Prograis since 2019. Anyone can see receipts on ******* with articles of Matias mentioning both guys. I always felt Taylor and Prograis were both overrated during a time 140 wasn't at it's strongest. 140 is more established now with more names and guys moving into the weight class. I genuinely believe Talyor/Prograis loses to any top 10 light at this point of their career. I feel like the Haney/Lopez wins blow more hype than substance. I don't favor both guys against Matias. Lopez struggles badly with high volume punchers. Matias will throw Lopez timing off because Matias throws arm punches, harder to counter Matias than a guy like Progais. The challenge that awaits Matias is at 147. I'll promise, Matias is going to get GGG treatment and get aged out. I don't believe Haney wants Matias. Devin himself has never tweeted or made a post about Matias. Bill Haney got caught lying about Matias 4 million dollar request and Peter Khan who's the manager of Zayas, not Matias. The Haneys and Lopez love pumpfaking the casuals to believe they take the toughest fights. Beating a 35 year old Prograis who struggled against Zorilla isn't a p4p win. Beating an old Josh Taylor who lost to Caterall isn't a real accolade. Matias stops both of those guys under 6 rounds.

    It's been since 2019 Matias can't get a big name.
     
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  2. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haney UD but gets wobbled atleast 1-2 times lol
     
  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haney seems more interested in chasing an easy win against the Instagram fighter.

    This video caught my attention, why is Bill Haney doing interviews about being trolled by Peter Khan
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  4. Diagoras

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    If you are talking about Ryan Garcia, he opted for Rolly after stringing huggy Haney along (well deserved slap for huggy)

    Huggy will likely face Sandor Martin his mandatory

    The Matias fight is too risky as he might end up taking a savage beating

    Let's see if Lopez makes the fight in June if he gets past Ortiz, that is more realistic than huggy taking this fight

    Matias might have to get picked up by Saudi's like Opetaia was to get the fights he wants with Saudi cash backing him. Opetaia just got the Briedis rematch on Feb 17 which few were expecting
     
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  5. Hi-Tech

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    I always thought Haney would outbox Matias easily like he did Regis, but you make a great point. It's a stylistic nightmare for Devin now that I think about it. If Matias can trap and land them bombs on Haney like Loma did repeatedly, it's game over. Either daddy Bill stops the fight or it's lights out for Devin.

    Also now that Subriel is with Matchroom, the Haneys and Lopez fights might finally come to fruition. Hopefully, this year, as Eddie recently made it clear which fights he wants the most. He knows what he doing :deal:

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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Matias needs a new moniker. There's nothing wrong with his current one ''El Orgullo de Maternillo'' which Google translate tells me means ''The Pride of Maternillo'' but he needs one more befitting of his fearsome reputation and suffocating style. Like how Huggy Haney or Haney the Hen are very apt.

    I still like The Honey Badger which was perfect especially when he used to have his hair dyed blond on top.
     
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  7. Hyland

    Hyland Pimp C's Father Full Member

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    Boogeyman
    Terminator
    No Mas Tias

    Are the names being used for Subriel Matias atm.
     
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  8. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Possibly. I can see Haney doing well, until he's not. One of those fights were the tide turns after 1 good round for Matias. Especially if Haney slows enough so Matias stays in range. But Haney has a good engine and movement. Would be an interesting fight.
     
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  9. GGGunbeatableGGG

    GGGunbeatableGGG Active Member Full Member

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    he rocks haney maybe once or twice but punches at air most of the fight and loses a wide decisionn matias is heavy heavy overated on this forum
     
  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Id like to see it.

    I think Matias is a KO waiting to happen but Haney cant do it.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Haney will outbox this dude and give him a boxing lesson and after the fight the excuses will start and no credit will be given.
     
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  12. Hyland

    Hyland Pimp C's Father Full Member

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    First this all sounds silly beginning to end. I'll start with the end

    "No credit will be given"
    100% Cap and just a weak attempt to discredit Matias. Matias has been ducked by Josh Taylor, Regis Prograis, Puello, Caterall and Hitchins. Teofimo Lopez and Devin Haney join that list as well because Lopez didn't even entertain fighting Matias when Matias returned and Bill Haney declined meeting with Matias. Win or Lose, Haney would get all the credit in the world fighting the most avoided fighter at 140. Even Haney critics will respect him highly for taking such a fight. Matias isn't Prograis. Haney will get credit considering his first 19 opponents were 114-149 and his last 6 opponents average age is 36. Haney has the most cherrypicks and only fights guys passed their prime without stopping them. Haney has 1 KO since 2019, went over 90 rounds boxing without knocking down a fighter, couldn't stop 80 year old Gamboa. He isn't Floyd. He's closer to Devon Alexander.

    Haneys defense and boxing is overrated. He's been hurt by JoJo Diaz, old Linares, old Lomachenko and were going to pretend like he's Sweat Pea? Haney is only 25 and he's very hittable when he throws the right to the body, he leaves himself open on the return and he doesn't throw enough power to take such a risk in that exchange. Matias has an accurate fast hook with both hands that will tag up Haney all day.

    Whats your gameplan for when Haney loses his legs by round 5 and he can't distance and circle the ring? Whats Haney gameplan when Matias cuts off the ring and punishes him for clinching? Matias is because dangerous of his jab, ability to cut off the ring and his infighting/being dangerous in the clinch. Matias knows how to reach his opponents because he knows how to cut off the ring and Matias is 5"9 with a 72 inch reach. He has a very good ability to shorten his punches which increases his accuracy. Matias knows how to slip his shots in between his opponents loops. Check the Ponce fight to see Matias utilize this. If you hold Matias you're getting beat up. Matias throws 100 punches a round and he only throws more when the rounds get deeper. His style beats slick boxers, Matias isn't Prograis. He has a jab, cuts off the ring and goes to the body. Matias has everything you want against a style like Haneys.


    What's most comical about your take is you spent 10 years on this forum glazing Paul Williams to the balls, Paul Williams fights more similar to Matias than Haney and I gurantee you if Haney was born and raised in PR you wouldn't be picking him in this fight. If Matias was born and raised in ATL, you would be team Matias. This is why 90% of the forum always seen you as a casual and a race fan. Good thing Decision Haney is too scared to take the fight. Haney isn't lasting 12 with Matias, quote me on that 9 years from now when Haney fights Matias at age 41.
     
  13. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He might want to skip that last one.

    No Mas Tias = No More Aunts lol
     
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who the **** has Matias beat? His resume is **** no cap. He's never beaten let alone been in the ring with an elite fighter. Haneys resume and level of comp is light years better than his. An old Loma would would make Matias look like a crude amateur. People love to overrate power punchers and ko artist that is until there in there with someone who's not there to be hit with an elite level jab and the ability to control range and dictate distance then they look like they just started boxing. I have nothing against Matias, when have you seen me in a thread about him bashing him? but beat someone of note before acting like he's the second coming. I'd pick teo to take his head off if they fought. Matias is there to be hit as long as Haney can stand up to his attack he will skate to a wide ud behind his long jab and overall boxing ability. Haney's experience against elite fighters something that Matias lacks will see him through. I hope the fight gets made so I can laugh my ass off when Haney beats him 10-2 or 9-3.

    As for race wtf are you talking about the guy looks black to me dummy. He has African blood in him despite being Puerto Rican. I'm pro American fighter first so stop the bull**** and talk boxing.
     
  15. Hyland

    Hyland Pimp C's Father Full Member

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    Common casual response from a race fan. Like I said, if Matias was from ATL or Cali, you would be on his meat, If Haney was Rican you wouldn't even cheer for him. You have over 20 years on this forum glazing AA meat exclusively.

    Everyone wants to say who has Matias fought but are too scared to asked who has ducked Matias.

    Subriel Matias has defeated the most undefeated fighters at 140.

    Subriel Matias first 20 opponents were 429-84.

    Maxim Dadashev was IBF ranked #3 and was next up to be Josh Taylor's mandatory before his tragic death.

    Shohjahon Ergashev was ranked #3 in the IBF and was undefeated when he fought Matias.

    Jeremiahs Ponce was 30-0, #2 IBF ranked before he fought Matias.

    Jumkembayev was undefeated and deemed as the next GGG at 140 before he fought Matias. Jumkembayev was ranked higher than Matias when they fought. Far from a "nobody" or "cherry pick". Matias fights contenders and top prospects only.

    Money Team top 140 undefeated prospect Malik Hawkins was the A side and got brutally battered by Matias.

    Find me 1 cherry pick in Matias record. I'll wait.

    Couldn't find any?


    Well, let me direct you to Devin Haneys resume.

    Devin Haneys first 19 opponents were 114-149, in Mexico.
    Haney 14 out of 15 KOs were in Mexico.
    Haney 1 out of 15 KOs were in the USA.
    Haney last 6 opponents have an average age of 36 years old.

    You can't even name 70% of Haneys resume. I'll do it for you.

    Who the hell is Mario Enrique?
    Who the hell is Miguel Angel Pere Aispuro?
    Who the hell is Hector Garcia Montes?
    Who the hell is Maximino Toala?
    Who the hell is Daniel Armando?
    Who the hell is Valenzuela?
    Who the hell is Dilon Rivera Meza?
    Who the hell is Carlos Antonio Avila?
    Who the hell is Mike Fowler?
    Who the hell is Carlos Castillo?
    Who the hell is Javier Meraz?
    Who the hell is Jairo Vargas?
    Who the hell is Rafael Vazquez?
    Who the hell is Roman Melendez?
    Who the hell is Hernandez?
    Who the hell is Jorge Sillas?
    Who the hell is Jose Inguez?
    Who the hell is Gonzalo Lopez?
    Who the hell is Paleta Man Rodriguez?

    10 tune up fights to a career is understandable. But 20?
    70% of Haneys career has been against guys who you can't name and came to lose.

    Devin Haney has been hurt more in his career than Matias. Haney has been hurt by 3 different fighters in JoJo Diaz, Jorge Linares and Vasily Lomachenko.

    Haney gets TKOed by Linares and Lomachenko if they were in their prime. 35 year old Linares had hurt Haney 6 times with the left hook. Haney got booed at the end of this fight in his own home state. Lomachenko genuinely beat 30-1 Haney, Haney got booed again in his own state. You too broke to even buy Haneys low 35K PPV Buys.

    If Haney doesn't have a beard for old Loma or Linares, what makes you think he has the punch resistance against a prime Matias who's twice the size of Loma/Linares? Stop acting like Haney is Floyd. You can't name most guys on his resume and Haney is vulnerable/gets hit alot for his "style". Matias has a swarming style so getting hit is expected but it doesn't mean Matias lacks defense. Ergashev only landed 18% of his punches against Matias and Ponce only landed 21%. The LW average is 29%. Do your research because YDKSAB. You hope Haney beats Matias but you can't even explain why thoroughly. Matias stops Lopez under 7. Lopez doesn't have power at 140 to back Matias up and Matias doesn't lunge into shots, you have to come to his vortex.
     
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