Could Liston beat Marciano in 1955

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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What do you think? Marciano has often been defended on the grounds he beat the best competition available during his era but I suspect Liston might have been able to take him by the latter part of his reign.

    Looking at Listons record I think he was a top 10 heavyweight earlier than people realized h2h. I'd guess he was top 10 ability wise by the Summerlin fights and approaching peak form by the Matshall rematch.
     
  2. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Liston would not beat Marciano until 1958, after that, the age would catch the great Rocky Marciano.
    But if they fought in 1955 it would not end well for Liston due to Liston lack of experience in fighting, not even his physique was developed as much as when he fought Cleveland Williams.
    When I see Liston fighting in AUUs and when I see his videos and photos from mid 50s, I can see that he was in his mid 20s not older, so he was not as old as people claim.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes. I would bet on Sonny, especially the version fighting by the end of that year.
     
  4. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I had always thought he was too inexperienced at the time. He only had about a dozen or so pro fights.

    It’s kind of difficult to gauge due to the lack of footage of those early fights.
     
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  5. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really can’t see it as someone who gives Marciano an outside (but real) chance of beating Liston prime for prime. Marciano may’ve been near the end of his career, but he was not near being some old, washed up champion.

    Liston gets knocked out here.
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Liston was nowhere near peak form by the Marshall rematch
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    No, he would not beat Marciano in ‘55.
     
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  8. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. IMO Sonny didn’t make the leap into hyperspace, Wookie, until about 1958.
     
  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    No, even with Marciano not being at his best in 1955, Liston was far too raw. Charles humiliated him in sparring around that time and said Marciano hit harder as well, iirc. Liston would go on to become much better
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I wouldn't even pick Liston over Patterson at this point.
     
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  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He'd already beaten Summerlin by that stage a guy who was a pretty solid fighter. And beating Marshall via such decisive means is a good result. Marshall was good enough to beat Satterfield. I think the evidence points to him being world class already.
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Liston is probably too inexperienced at this point to beat Rocky.
     
  13. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    An inexperienced Liston is the only version that might lose to Marciano.
     
  14. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Sonny busts Rocky’s face up with his well timed jab and then gets him with uppercuts and hooks. Total annihilation. Sonny ain’t no Jersey Joe. He’s a Foreman before George was even conceived, and more.
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He wouldn't have been ready for Marciano in 1955. He didn't exactly have an easy time with Marty Marshall
     
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