WBC orders Canelo to fight Benavidez in 2024

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  1. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For every fanboy there's a hater. Same coin different side.
     
  2. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo is a great fighter, doesn’t mean he’s immune from being critiqued and being called out for blatantly ducking a hard fight.
     
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  3. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bivol ducking Beterbiev for 7 years? I see the narrative that is being pushed here - the Canelo fanboys have been on a wild one hating on Bivol because he dominated and schooled Canelo (and yet the judges tried to rob him).

    Bivol has not been ducking and even if he had been what relevancy is to this? A classic Canelo fanboy move I see - another fighter’s actions don’t justify Canelo’s, period.
     
  4. IsaL

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    Okay, we can flip it, Beterbiev has been ducking Bivol. Or they've both been ducking each other.

    I'm simply pointing out your double standards. Your hypocrisy, and exposing you for a hater and not so much a concerned or worrying fan as you claim to be.

    There's a fight at 175 that needed to be made since early 2018.

    But here you are more concerned because Benavidez an inconsistent fighter who lost his one title to cocaine, and then lost that same title to food or lack of discipline, became the mandatory 11 months ago by beating a Canelo leftover.

    Bivol-Beterbiev is a more meaningful fight, against two undefeated reigning champions, who have both held LHW titles since November 2017, and we're now in 2024, and still no fight. Where were you in those Bivol-Beterbiev threads with all your passion for boxing?

    You don't care about Benavidez, or the SMW division, or even boxing, you care about Canelo and trying to discredit him. It's obvious.
     
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  5. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Again what relevancy are Bivol and Beterbiev to this discussion? This is about Canelo. I don’t need to go on every other thread and saying something to be able to comment.

    Fighters ducking other fighters should always be called out, I’m not denying that and never have in any of my posts. As usual, your only defence is to bring up other fighters. It’s the classic Canelo fanboy move I’ve seen a thousand times before.
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Like I said, I'm exposing that you're a hater
     
  7. Eclipse

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    You are trying to rewrite history or have a bad memory. Nobody was even considering Canelo would be fighting either Charlo in 2023. Everyone was expecting the Benavidez fighter after he beat Plant. The charlos were inactive so either of them was a huge surprise when it was announced. The 3 fight deal was announced when the Mell fight was announced, there was no prior knowledge of any 3 fight deal and saving Benavidez for last. You made it all up. Canelo ducked the Benavidez office and made a 3 fight cherry pick deal.

    Benavidez beat Gavril and Dirrell for his titles not Angulo. I said having belts does not automatically make you the best. It still means something. I never said Benavidez was the best for winning a belt. I am consistent. You claimed Benavidez had some nothing in his career which is a laughable statement.

    Now you are trolling surely. The same Jack who went life and death with Dirrell? Degale is a domestic can.
     
  8. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where have I hated on Canelo? Pointing out facts is not hating, the only thing being exposed is your complete lack of objectivity when it comes to Canelo. All you’ve done is brought up other fighters who are irrelevant to this discussion as you simply cannot defend his match making choices.
     
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  9. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I'm fully aware of what goes on

    But I'm not a supporter of such BS

    You clearly are OK with it
     
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  11. Alfo1998

    Alfo1998 just an Italian guy Full Member

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    Canelo is onnly waiting when Benavidez wont be able to make 168, so he could avoid the fight, since he will not fight again at 175.
    Oh, and I think that Canelo would beat Benavidez, im not saying he is scared, but i believe that he is try to avoid a hard fight that of corse would damage a lot Canelo himself. Maybe after his long career he doesent want to be engaged in hard fight like that.
     
  12. steviebruno

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    How is Benavidez inconsistent when he is smashing everyone to bits and is 28-0 with 24 kos? He was immature early in his career but what does that have to do with him right now? He is a two-time champ, is the no. 1 contender, and has been the toughest opponent out there for several years now. Stop using mistakes he made as a kid -before Canelo was even in his division- as an excuse for Canelo's cowardice.

    It's ironic that you bring up Bivol and Beterbiev, while ignoring the fact that Canelo himself played a role in delaying that fight by jumping up to 175 and trying to cherrypick a title from the lesser guy (Bivol) on his way to a bogus cruiserweight title. Had Canelo not been averse to fighting Benavidez, we might already have an undisputed LHW champion.

    Tim Tsyzu may have also gotten his shot at Charlo at 154.

    Canelo has held 154-175 hostage because of his unwillingness to fight one man. But hey, maybe he'll fight him in 2025, maybe not... eh?
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

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    I was specifically talking about when he signed the deal with PBC. Once he signed the deal Charlo was stated to be the likely first opponent. I wasn't talking about before that, hence why I mentioned the deal in the first place, when mentioning Charlo as an opponent.

    https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-ne...n Canelo,title defense against Jermall Charlo.

    As for Benavidez fighting Canelo before then. Al Haymon controls all as both are signed to him and if Haymon doesn't want it yet then it isn't happening, we both know he tightly controls the careers of those he "advises."

    Whoever he beat for the title they were unknowns who don't get you an automatic shot at the cash cow. Especially as he needed an SD to beat Gavril, whoever Gavril is. Also after he beat Lemieux in March 2023, it was reported he was looking at fights with Plant, Morell and Jermall Charlo, not Canelo. So even then Benavidez wasn't on the cards as a possible opponent for Canelo probably because Haymon likes to keep things in house and wouldn't risk Benavidez until he signed Canelo. Yes while people on here were talking about matching Benavidez vs Canelo, even Benavidez's own handlers were not looking for that fight. How can Canelo be ducking Benavidez when Benavidez's own team didn't want the fight next?

    "The softer touch was always there for David Benavidez.

    Fights with Caleb Plant, David Morrell and Jermall Charlo were long in the sights of the former two-time WBC super middleweight titlist. In fact, he called out all three following his previous fight, when Benavidez knocked out David Lemieux to claim the interim WBC 168-pound title. The win came in front of an adoring local crowd at Desert Diamond Arena in Glendale, Arizona, just outside his childhood hometown.
    The softer touch was always there for David Benavidez."


    DeGale a domestic can lol. Olympic gold medallist, world titlist that's not the record of a domestic can. Plant isn't a domestic can either but he the hell isn't better than DeGale. This era sucks at 168, other than Canelo there's nobody in the division who could live in the previous era's.
     
  14. Bokaj

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    So, as a fan I'm going to be very disssapointed if we don't get the Canelo-Benavidez fight, but let's get a bit of perspective here.

    Canelo is no Gervonta Davies kind of fighter who seems destined to see out his career without facing a real challenge. He already has a great career behind him and might feel that he's going into semi-retirement now. After all he has faced most of the major players from Maywethar to Bivol over a pro career that's stretched over half his life so far.

    So if he drops his belt instead of facing Benavidez (still only an if) it's the old cowboy riding into the sunset, not the young gun running away. It's not Davies refusing to touch Haney with a 10 foot pole. There are different stages in a career and that makes a difference.

    But he should be stripped if he doesn't face Benavidez and I'll be sad if he doesn't. But still understand it in a different way than those who never really have challenged themselves in the first place.
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peoplw with poor critical thinking or analytical skills jump straight to calling others "Hater". Some of these guys simply don't possess the ability to be rational, even if it's warrented in a negative fashion. Typical fanboys
     
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