Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou •

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Naganou-Joshua, who wins?

  1. Naganou KO

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  2. Joshua KO

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Enough to easily handle Parker
     
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  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, there is the slight difference that Ngannou performed massively over expectation and made it close against the fighter most had as the best, while Wilder performed massively under expectation and was easily beat by someone many thought was more or less done. You know that little thing called context.

    Because of this the Ngannou fight is not only massive money but also billed as an elimination for undisputed by the Saudis. Something a Wilder fight wouldn't bring. That pesky little thing known as context again.
     
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  3. NewChallenger

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    I believe Joshua will be knocked out by Ngannou. I never believed that Ngannou could beat Tyson Fury. Fury has proven to have the chin to take anything Ngannou could so him getting KO'ed I never believed.

    The thing is AJ was knocked out by Ruiz (Granted, I predicted this, due to Ruiz's speed), he almost got knocked out by Wlad and I believe Dillan Whyte hurt him bad and he was on the verge of being knocked out, Whyte just didn't finish it.

    Unless AJ cautiously boxes, even then, I believe it will be a late rounds KO by Ngannou
     
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  4. IsaL

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    I think Fury was very unprepared for Ngannou and that's why he looked terrible.
     
  5. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Welcome to the club PAL

    Francis is a born fighter. AJ is not. Francis is top tier mentally and physically tough. AJ is mentally weak. Physically fragile and has not dealt with a man stronger than him EVER and Francis is going to be twice as strong as the next best which was old man Wlad. Francis just has to get past the jab and close the distance that AJ wants to hold.
     
  6. AdamT

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  7. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Parker lost that fight out of the gate mentally then cruised to a survive. Pathetic.

    Parker today would put up a better fight...as long as he gets stuck in and uses that chin he has.
     
  8. Kiwi Casual

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    Go watch the fight. Ref wouldn't let Parker in close and kept them apart like Moses with the Red Sea. That's obviously going to benefit AJ hiding behind reach.
    You mean when AJ was slagging off Fury for taking the fight then proceeded to take it after Ngannou lost? He's still picking a 0-1 novice over Wilder, and points loss against Parker is just a convenient excuse for AJ to duck Wilder.

    AJ v Wilder is still the bigger fight money wise, and it's a fight we've waited far too long for. It's sad seeing boxing fans being hypocrites.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

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    And Ngannou lost to Fury and is a novice. It's not an acceptable excuse and only reinforces boxers cherry picking to keep that zero instead of taking big fights. It's bad for the sport.
     
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  10. Bokaj

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    You can't be stupid enough to really believe this is why Joshua won so comfortably.

    To be really honest with you, I think you're acting dumb. This "0-1" thing is cringeworthy. Ngannou gained huge credit from the Fury performance and is seen as a much better opponent now than when he was at 0-0. This is the fight the Saudi's want and therefore it's more money than Wilder and also a promise of undisputed. Easily the best deal Joshua could have gotten.

    As a fan I wanted him against Zhang or Hrgovic, but I can't blame him for taking what could well be the shortest route to undisputed. Also I think it's a better fight even for me as a fan than a fight with Wilder.

    Yes, you are going to continue with "What, am I wrong that he's an 0-1 novice and the only thing that has happened since Joshua ridiculed Fury fighting is that he lost his first fight?", but that's just digging yourself a bigger hole of stupidity.

    I thought you had some decent posts earlier, but this run has just been embarrassing. So, that's all the time I'm going to waste on you for now.
     
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  11. KINGWILDER

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    Agreed Ngannou is dangerous and has the power to stop Joshua but come on, when did Breazeale hurt AJ? The fight was very one sided.
     
  12. KINGWILDER

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    While I agree with a lot of your post I don’t think the referee changed the result. I think AJ is the superior fighter to Parker and would beat him pretty much every time. Granted the referee did not help, but he also prevented AJ landing his signature uppercut on the inside as well.

    As for AJ vs Wilder, the Ngannou fight is a cherry pick in my eyes and unsurprising. However, I think Wilder vs AJ has lost a lot of its sparkle and would not be as big nowadays. Still, I agree it would outperform the Ngannou fight.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    The ref ****ed up, but it's wishful thinking that this benefitted the stronger fighter with the better mid range game.
     
  14. KINGWILDER

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    The referee was a joke but it’s hard to say who it inhibited more as I think both guys have solid inside games.
     
  15. Bokaj

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    Joshua has by far the more lethal uppercut, and also a better left hook. Anyhow, I don't see a need for saying he would have won even more conclusively otherwise. It's a shame it happened, but all we know is that Joshua won fairly easily and should leave it at that. This absolute nonsense that he was somehow gifted the win... Well, that one opinion instantly marks the one who has it as a moron.