Canelo and Crawford leave PBC

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  1. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How does PBC grow on Amazon Prime when they dont even have a schedule announced?
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    He's been Canelo's mandatory for seven years?? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  3. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The point being that Morrell has had 10 fights and Berlanga has not beaten anybody. I can see a case for a fight with Munguia but Benavidez is entitled to his shot at Canelo. Benavidez CV at 168 is unarguably better than any of the guys you named.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Who has Benavidez beat? Just recently Plant who Canelo had to move up and KO first.. Andrade? Lol
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The First PBC/Amazon Prime Show is at the end of next month. That show alone has more title fights on it than ESPN+ is showing the entire month of March. ESPN has a card March 2 and March 29.

    March 30

    Tim Tszyu vs. Keith Thurman - Middleweights
    Rolly Romero vs. Isaac Cruz - WBA Super Lightweight Title
    Erislandy Lara vs. Michael Zerafa - WBA Middleweight Title
    Sebastian Fundora vs. Serhii Bohachuk - Vacant WBC Super Welterweight Title
    Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Angelino Cordova - WBC Flyweight Title
    Elijah Garcia vs. Kyrone Davis - WBA Intercontinental Middleweight Title

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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Name ALL the promoters who have "the resources" to pay Canelo $70 million up front for two fights this year, and pay Crawford $15-$20 million upfront for his?

    I don't think either Bob Arum or Eddie Hearn has $100 million just laying around to pay two guys.

    It's a list of one (the Saudis), now that the PBC isn't doing it anymore.

    PBC isn't going anywhere. They have the biggest distributor in the world (190-plus countries). The boxers who want to work with them will be seen all over the globe, not just in a country here or there.

    And they no longer have to commit close to $100 million in 2024 to TWO boxers ... who will quickly find they don't have much of anyone to fight at Matchroom.
     
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  7. The Cryptkeeper

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    Man, there's not that much at 168. The guys you put up are next best and none of them, except Munguia make any sense.

    Of course Benavidez should be fighting Canelo. And it's disingenuous to suggest he should either wait around or take more fights at 168 whilst Canelo fights yet another garden gnome. Those are moderate risk, no reward fights for Benavidez.

    At least if he goes up to 175 and loses he has an immediate way back to Canelo. If he was to lose in an upset at 168 then the Canelo door is shut.
     
  8. The Cryptkeeper

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    It's actually a good card. There's no legacy fight there but there's more than enough talent at world level to pay the cash I reckon.
     
  9. liger1992

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    Its a PPV. You do not build new stars on PPV. Give me dates for the rest of the year? None announced!!

    So far it looks like:

    March 30 PPV -- Tszyu-Thurman May 4 PPV
    June PPV -- Benavidez-Gvozdyk
    Later summer PPV -- Tank-Frank Martin


    This is not a broadcast deal, its a PPV deal.

    Not forgetting Tszyu vs Thurman on PPV will bomb hard. They havent even announced any shoulder programming to build the PPV with 5 weeks left.
     
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  10. Pepsi Dioxide

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    True, but this is a ppv correct while the others are not. I can't find a ppv price for tszyu vs Thurman or a way to order it yet.
     
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  11. oldcanvasback

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    In the upper echelons. Top Rank, Matchroom etc.
     
  12. oldcanvasback

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    In the upper echelons. Top Rank, Matchroom etc.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    I thought it was a bit more than that, the distributer (Showtime) gets 10% off the top, the MSO's namely the cable companies get 45%, leaving 45% for the promoter to pay the fighters.

    I can see why this was problematic for Showtime/PBC as with a fighter like Canelo who has such high guaranteed purses the PPV has to do very well or somebody is losing money. For example the Charlo fight did 650K at $85.99 so the total revenue is $55,893,500.00 so that only leaves PBC with their 45%, $25,152,075.00 to not only pay Canelo but cover all the other fighters purses on that card as well as all other costs related to that promotion and that probably didn't cover Canelo's guarantee or it resulted in someone making less money that they had hoped, which was either Canelo or PBC having to pay Canelo's guarantee out of their own pockets meaning they lost money on the Charlo fight.

    Canelo wasn't asking to be paid before the fight, he simply wanted PBC to put his guarantee in escrow to prove they could cover his guarantee and obviously they were unable to do that, either they did not have the funds or knew it likely they would lose money on the next fight, so were looking for a way out. Canelo clearly was concerned that he wouldn't get his guarantee and looking at the finances of the Charlo fight you can see why. Too many fighters to count have been screwed over by promoters and so Canelo wasn't going to risk fighting and then getting screwed over because PBC couldn't pay what they promised.
     
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  14. Eclipse

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    Or they actually did that or never needed to do ever do that, and its just a fabricated rick glaser narrative because he is the only person reporting this. All the other reports from respected mexican media are saying they were not simply not prepared to pay Canelo for a bum charlo fight. No other reports of not having the money. One person is claiming this on the planet so far. That should bother you.
     
  15. Boxing_Fan101

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    PBC for years had all the stars at 147 and what did they do make em box once a year wasting away their primes and refusing to set up fights outside of their stable

    It’s clear if you don’t adapt to changing times or collaborate with other promoters you risk wasting your roster of talented fighters and alienating the fans atleast Hearn and Fish Eyes have recognised this and out aside their differences hell even King and Arum were able to work together if the fight made sense