Remember Joshua has looked more vulnerable than Fury against most common opponents

He’s a cheat mate

 

The strangest thing about the fury N’Gannou fight was that N’Gannou was coming forward in straight lines and was very predictable.
fury could have easily just stepped off using angles and would have been an easy nights work, it baffles me that he didn’t just move his feet, i don’t think it was an example of fury being on the slide but I don’t know why he didn’t just move his feet. He should have embarrassed N’Gannou.
I think Joshua should beat him but he doesn’t have the footwork like fury and struggles with lateral mobility so he will probably jab away and look to fight off the back foot and look for the uppercut.

 

Did he hurt AJ? No - Joshua never looked hurt once in that fight and won with complete ease (given Ruiz was completely out of shape). If you are going to try and push a narrative about a fighter, at least use events that actually occurred. Using Joshua vs Ruiz 2 in this example is a poor take.

 

Are you a glove gate conspiracist or are you referring to the PEDs. If the later yes he did cheat for the Klitschko fight.

 

I'm pretty sure Otto Wallin is also someone who boxes.

 

You are still stuck on the notion Joshua is going to fight Ngannou like he did Wallin.

Back to the thread and topic where thread starter said Joshua looked vulnerable against Wallin. He did not. Your continue interjection on what could happen with Ngannou still means nothing with his fight with Wallin.

 

Iam a facts guy and I’m in the “if you will cheat once you will cheat again” so I can’t ever value anything else they achieve after getting popped.
I was all in on Canelo man and now I feel cheated. every fight every result is open to be questioned from now until forever.
Once you ped your resume is in a separate pile and should never be able to get hall of fame or atg recognition.
The problem with boxing is that if you never admit guilt and stick with your story eventually you’ll be forgiven or it will be clouded by doubt.
A cheat will always cheat

 

Also I think the days of tampering with gloves are over, multiple people from each team inspect the equipment now.

 

The title of this thread is wrong. Joshua and Fury share four common opponents. Whyte, Johnson, Klitschko and Wallin. Joshua looked worse in the Klitschko and Whyte fights but looked much better in the Johnson and Wallin fights. So that's two fights a piece.

Thread starter is an idiot.

 

That's premature to me. If he beats Usyk, yes. If Usyk beats him without controversy the case won't be very strong.

 

I think beating Wlad the way he did (far easier than Joshua did, with a younger more active version), stopping Wilder twice (overrated as he may he was still a dangerous guy), and stopping Whyte for me is another to clearly rank him above AJ.

 

Fury is entering his physical decline and seems to be going through a confidence crisis now too

Ngannou dropped him and he has postponed the Usyk fight yet again

The walls are closing in on Fury

Joshua still seems up for it mentally.

If he bombs out Ngannou - which I think he will - it will just further increase Joshua's confidence

All these guys are front runners who need confidence momentum behind them to maintain a certain level of performance.

They're not that strong mentally IMO

 

Nah. Joshua beat Wlad (a version without the same personal problems) and Whyte clearly enough, and Wallin much more clearly. And if Fury clearly loses to Usyk and Joshua clearly beats Ngannou, then you can't really make an argument for Fury based on common opposition.

And Parker and even that version of Povetkin might be better wins than Wilder. So what's left then is that Joshua lost to a guy that Fury likely wouldn't lose to but actually hasn't faced. Not enough to talk a level above imo.

So I would wait with such things until the dust has cleared a bit. Maybe we'll even see Fury and Joshua meet, and the result of that will of course go a long way. So much can still happen.

As of yet in their careers, I'd give Fury the edge even though he's been carefully managed but things could look different in just a few months time, so I'm going to wait with making a verdict.

 

No, this generation of fighters doesn't seem that strong mentally. With Stevenson also "retiring" after one disappointing performance. Those from poorer countries, like Pac and Canelo, seem to be more old school, though. They've taken their L:s without meltdowns.