The reason why Canelo wont fight Benavidez

Haymon made a contract, Canelo signed, Haymon can't keep to his part of the contract and tries to change the terms. That's breach and bad business.

It's what it is. You guys want to blame Canelo, when Haymon is to blame.

 

Is Canelo somehow not to blame for not fighting a guy running around with the WBC interim title for two years, who also fought and earned the right to become his mandatory?

That's not bad business, IsaL?

It should never have been PBC's responsibility to enforce Canelo's mandatory.

In your mind, Canelo signed a 100m deal to fight drunks and pushovers, but that's not why PBC invested in him. But Canelo should sue if I am wrong.

 

Canelo checklist for opponent. Pick any and all that apply:

Ridiculous guarantee.
Head case that hasn't fought seriously in 4 years.
Old cruiserweight champion 10 lbs below the actual weight.
42-0 can crusher.
Guys 2 and 3 weight classes below his current one.

With his 500k 700k PPV sales, down from 1.5M 7 years ago. The face of boxing everyone!

 

I wish boxing was perfect, but it's not because people go into boxing for the money, so business will always rule.

 

Stevie, if someone told you they will pay you 105 million to have one of your easiest years in boxing. Would you not take it??!!

PBC drew up the contract. They're the ones who didn't include Benavidez.

Al Haymon advised Benavidez to move up to 175 one week before he can enforce his mandatory status.

This is all on Haymon, not Canelo.

Canelo just said, yeah pay me to have an easy year. When PBC couldn't meet their end of the deal, it allowed Canelo to go somewhere where they would do better business.

 

I don't blame Canelo for not wanting to deal with a creep like Al Haymon but it is clear that he doesn't want to fight Benavidez.
When he signed the 3 fight deal I think that everyone involved at least thought that Benavidez would be one of the three.
It is a shame that he is following the Mayweather blue print of ducking and cherry picking.

 

They didn't include Benavidez in the contract that Canelo SIGNED, IsaL. Do you honestly believe that his name never came up? LMAO. Canelo rejected the intitial offer that included Benavidez.

Anyway, if you are correct, PBC owes Canelo about 70m. He should sue them like he sued GBP.

 

I'm not trying to speak hypotheticals right now, I'm trying to be as black and white as possible.

What I know is that Canelo was promised one thing, and PBC couldn't or wouldn't deliver so Canelo walked.

I don't know if Canelo will sue PBC for 70 million or or not because I don't know the details on the contract.

 

Your last line is correct. A week ago, you were adamant that contract was to fight the two Charlos and then Benavidez... but now it has become clear that he never intended to fight Benavidez... which we were telling you all along.

The more info that leaks out, the worse it looks for Canelo. I look forward to seeing the lawsuit, though. It will be hilarious.

 

...its not even PROMISES...its a LEGAL DOCUMENT that you try change retroactively.

Imagine if you get hired for a job at 45$/hr for 9a-5p...dope. After a couple months Boss comes and says:

A) We cant pay you 45$/hr anymore for 9a-5p...gonna have to be 35$/hr (still good but wtf)

B) If you agree to move to 11a-11p we can give you 45$/hr

...yall just signed offer letter and - because Boss dont like the consequences - Boss wanna change it??? Nah.

Hear me out. If PBC sold 5 MILLION BUYS in Canelo Jermell and was in the green nearly a billion dollars. Do you think they would offer Canelo more than his 35$ million?

Based on the fact that PBC attempted to breach their own contract and coerce Canelo to do what PBC wanted...cant imagine they would share money if they won a lot. PBC comes off as selfish AF and evil self-serving business people...ya know, kinda what Floyd said Arum and TR were.........

 

I've been saying for weeks that Benavidez would be in 2025. Everything pointed to that.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...esday-6pm-uk-time.716793/page-2#post-22733908

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...nt-revealed-disgraceful.716827/#post-22734826

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/canelo-vs-jermall-on-may-4th.715642/page-8#post-22701897

 

You might be on to something. Duck tacos sounds pretty good.

 

Which "big punchers" did Canelo supposedly avoid?

 

I get the legal aspect, obviously Canelo is within his rights to decline and leave PBC. I'm sure Haymon has an out clause (he's not green at this game) so it's not a breach of contract. Canelo would be suing if it were. This is all because Jermell did so badly that there is no interest in the Jermall fight, Haymon loses money on that one for sure, and is only happy to go ahead if he gets to recoup the money on the Benavidez fight. Otherwise he gets out, which is what happened.

So again Canelo is within his rights to leave PBC. But if he actually wants the Benavidez fight, I'm sure a deal could have made. Because Haymon does have the money for this, he actually (per Dan Rafael and others) wants to make the fight as its the one fight he can make money on. Canelo had not committed to fighting Benavidez in the third fight so isn't breaching contract either, but who else should PBC put up? It really is the logical choice. As fans I think we should be pressuring (all) boxers to make the big fights rather than make business decisions all the time - and this goes for everyone not just Canelo of course.

I think going to DAZN actually complicates any chance of Canelo-Benavidez happening, but I hope I'm wrong. I thought Canelo and Benavidez were just posturing and the fight would happen later this year or May 2025, and thus neither were to blame more than the other. But the latest news seems to suggest (and a number of prominent boxing journalists seem to have the same idea) that Canelo doesn't actually want to fight Benavidez at all.

 

Per the DR article, Haymon gave Canelo an ultimatum. He gets $15 million less for Charlo unless he agrees to fight Benavidez in September. Per that same article Benavidez was not one of the original three PBC fighters. So that's not a breach on Canelo. That's PBC trying to change the contract.

That doesn't sound right. Canelo has a binding legal contract that says he gets 35 mil for Charlo, and mid way through the contract they want to re-write it? That sounds like breach.

Who's to say that if the Canelo-Jermall fight totally flops, they won't once again breach the new contract.

At this point if I'm Canelo, I've lost confidence in PBC. I rather go with Matchroom who have done good on their mutual agreements. Hearn already said he would be willing to work with PBC to make the Benavidez fight.

What are your sources about Canelo not wanting Benavidez? Jose Benavidez was asked if Canelo flat out refused the fight, and he didn't answer. Instead he said that he was ghosted. Only issue with his ghosted answer is that the same team that would negotiate for Canelo, would negotiate for Gvozdyk, so that sounds like B.S. from Jose Benavidez.