Imagine what a prime Lennox Lewis would've done to Vitali Klitschko

I didn't say he gassed out, I said he was gassing. Learn how to read.

2nd time asking you to name a boxer who was still in their prime at 37, gassing in 4 rounds, and heavier than they'd ever been.

And since you think quotes from a trainer are gospel and "Steward knows more than me", here's a nice quote from Lewis himself:

“I took him on at short notice, and despite being mentally ready, my physical preparation wasn’t ideal. I beat him at my worst, so there was no need for a rematch. He definitely experienced the uppercuts.”

So there you have it. Lewis was "at his worst" for the Vitali fight according to the boxer himself. Now don't go shifting the goal posts about which quotes are valid and which ones aren't, or claiming Lewis is biased and egocentric, etc.

 

Please. I have read many of the most important books in world history and self-published a couple that I have written. Let's not get into a food fight about reading skills. I won't insult you, here, but in any case you are wrong. Lewis was getting his second wind.

Wow, you are taking a fighter's word for a tough performance? I'll leave that where it is.

 

Why do you believe that you have made a point here?

 

Because I did.

You posted a quote from Steward and passed it off as gospel because "he knows more than me". I posted a quote from the boxer himself, and it's dismissed because "Lewis had an ego". Not only that, I even predicted you'd do that. Either quotes are valid or they're not.

You also failed to tell me even one other boxer who was prime and world class at 37 years of age, 16 lbs overweight, and gassing within 4 rounds. I have asked you to name one about 4-5x now.

 

A fighter will always make excuses for a tough performance. It is astonishing that you don't know this.

It really isn't relevant what other fighters are prime, though many have fought successfully into late 30s and even 40s. . Camp Lewis was bullish on him, and that is the point.

 

What's astonishing is you think I'm unaware fighters make excuses. You missed the point. You held one quote as gospel and dismiss another quote because the fighter is "biased". Did you know trainers can biased and sometimes hype up their fighters and that could be why Steward said what he said...? Lol. He knew more than anyone on the planet Lewis was an unmotivated fatso with a poor gas tank. That's why Lewis wanted another easy money fight with a shot Tyson, he wasn't really looking for anymore big challenges.

It's very relevant because if you can't name any fighter who was prime while 37, overweight, and gasping for air in the 4th round, your claims that Lewis was in his prime are frankly imbecilic.

 

Uh, Joe Walcott was champ at 37. Lot's of fighters gasp for air in tough fights.

Fighters age at different times, and the bigger a fighter is, the slower they age, in around about way. Klitschko, for example had a couple of very good fights at around that age against Pulev and Povetkin.

You know, I try to be nice to you guy, but you show your own vast insecurities when you throw around these insults.

 

Surely the fact that Lewis retired after the fight speaks volumes for how 'prime' he was, doesn't it? We can debate the veracity of his claims or those of his trainer all day long. Fact is, he chose never to fight again. He was nearly 38, weighed what Foreman did for Holyfield when he was routinely described a being fat and had been a pro for 15 years after a long amateur career.

Based on the evidence, as well as his performance, I'd say he was far from prime. It seems he would too. Thus he quit.

 

Do you have a reading disability? I said a 37 year old whose overweight and starts gassing early. Was Walcott overweight and suffering from stamina issues? No. Try again.

I am not insecure, I am vastly superior to you intellectually. I think you're a clown who can't admit when they're wrong.

 

Apparently fat 37 year olds who've been fighting for 15 years are spring chickens in their prime.

 

Vitali had been preparing his in-ring strategy almost a year prior to the fight. The interview posted here many times in the past.

He was also the up and comer looking for his title challenge so he was hungrier and more motivated.

Lewis saw Vitali as the guy who tapped out against a pillow puff middle weight .

He overlooked Vitali and didn't train himself properly.

It was literally the worst Lewis vs the best Vitali , and he still won.

A fight involving prime Lewis only raises the question of what round Vitali crumples into a heap in.

 

Actually, I am exponentially smarter than you are. You are attaching your own qualifiers to make an issue that is not there. Lewis was not that overweight giving his size, and yes, his age, as weight comes naturally with age. And he wasn't gassed...gassing...gassinish...he struggled a bit, found his rhythm, and was winning.

Please, you make yourself look like a fool hurling around the insults and you don't even know it.

 

You're not. You're actually an idiot.

-Lewis at 256 was factually heavier than he'd been for any fight. That only acceptable even for someone his size if it's functional muscle, not fat.
-He was 30 lbs heavier than he was when he won his first title.
-Lewis at 256 was 10 lbs heavier than he was for his crucial do or die rematch with Rahman just 2 years prior to the Vitali fight.
-More than 10 lbs heavier than the most important win of his career against Holyfield. Or other important fights against Briggs, Magrovic, Golota, Mercer, etc.
-Nobody in the history of boxing was in their prime at 37 while overweight, and having been a pro for 15 years along with a long amateur career. You still haven't given me any other example to validate your absurd claim Lewis was prime.

It's quite obvious that Lewis didn't think much of Vitali and that's why he was so heavy and lethargic. Yet he still won.

He himself said he was out of shape and the fact he was gassing early is proof. I never said he "gassed", I said he was gassing in the 4th round, and this is my second time correcting you because either A) you apparently never learned verb tenses in school, B) you aren't even reading anything before replying (which I suspect to be the case since you idiotically mentioned Walcott as an example of an overweight 37 year old still being prime) or C) both...?

Not one person in the thread agreed with you and several agreed with me, but I'm the one who looks like a fool...? The only reason you're still going on is because you're a child who thinks it's manly to dig your heels in and argue even when they say something stupid and inaccurate. Should I put this discussion to a vote to see if anyone agrees with your brain dead takes...?

 

Dude, wasn't gassing. He got his second win and won the fight. He blew Vitali. That's why Lennox is the man.