Benavidez Vs Gvozdyk in June

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  1. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I told you where to look. Your opinion is your claim.
     
  2. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it is more likely Benavidez leaves PBC as he only has 1 fight left on his deal and then signs with Matchroom or becomes a free agent to get the Canelo fight.
     
  3. 'Warpath'

    'Warpath' New Member Full Member

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    lol a claim is a statement asserting something to be true. An opinion is someone's belief. Now you are trying to use hearsay as proof :facepalm: Just post a link to Morrell declining the Benavidez fight like you claimed he did. You are embarressing yourself now & showing yourself to be intellectually dishonest
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Then why were you guys mad at Canelo for fighting Yildirim? :lol:

    That was his mandatory. No consistency with you Canelo haters.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'm not mad. Quite the opposite.

    You'll never appreciate how greatful I am for the distraction you've provided me over the past few days.
     
  6. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You believe Morrell is good. Quit splitting hairs. Go look up Ronnie Shields explaining they weren’t ready for a Benavidez fight. You have the same access I do.
     
  7. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Well I'm actually looking forward to seeing how Benavidez does at 175. From the PBC fallout it doesn't look like he has a shot at the belts this year.
     
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  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Crazy how this thread devolved into something other than the actual fight that should be being discussed.

    If this was Gvozdyk pre-Beterbiev I'd say that Benavidez wouldn't have much chance. I don't think that fighter exists anymore and I would say this is a 50/50 fight, slight edge to the guy who has shown he's a killer more recently (David).
     
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  9. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Since Gvozdyk came back he has looked very sharp IMO, I'm not sure there has been a decline compared to his pre-retirement level. Whilst he was inactive for a long time he also wasn't taking damage in that period; you could very well be right that father time/inactivity will catch up to Gvozdyk, but given what I've seen from him since his return I'm very optimistic as to his chances vs Benavidez.
     
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  10. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't think it's opponent level? Gvod is (or was) definitely elite. Beterbiev put it on him though. Guys aren't often the same after that
     
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  11. 'Warpath'

    'Warpath' New Member Full Member

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    It's not splitting hairs. The 2 words have different definitions for a reason. A claim & an opinion are not the same thing. Now you are showing your dishonesty by moving the goal posts. As your post below shows I was asking you for proof of Morrell saying no from the time that claim of a signed agreement was made by Benavidez' manager. You've shown nothing to indicate that Morrel said no to the fight since that claim of a signed agreement was made

     
  12. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your opinion is your claim. But if you really want to know, go look up “Ronnie Shields declines Benavidez fight.” Its on bscene. He literally said he felt Morrell wasn’t ready. I don’t blame him. ““When I first started training [Morrell], after the very first fight, they came and they offered a fight with David Benavidez in the next fight,” Shields recalled. “I told [Morrell’s] managers no.”
     
  13. Eclipse

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    Considering David's attributes and skills and domination his whole career why would you think he wouldn't have much chance vs that Gvozdyk?
     
  14. 'Warpath'

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    A claim & an opinion are not the same thing, they have 2 different definitions. Lewkowicz was claiming the signed agreement around the time Morrell had the WBA mandatory against Yerbossynuly coming up. That was Morrell's 8th fight & Shields says they approached Team Benavidez after that & they said no. As your post below clearly indicates, you acknowledge the signed contract & timeframe but have not provided anything to prove that Morrel said no to the fight since that claim of a signed agreement was made

     
  15. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They declined a fight. End of story.
     
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