If Marciano Had Fought Valdes,Baker,& Henry?

Layne never ko'd a ranked fighter.
Mathews was a hype job. 42 of his 61 kos were over lhv's ,middles, and even lighter men.
He himself was a lhvy.He never stopped a ranked heavyweight.
Two thirds of Moore's ko wins are over journeymen and most of them were not heavyweights.Plus Moore was 41 years old.
Louis' power was a thing of the past.
Eddie Ross?
He never weighed over 175lbs.
He never beat a heavyweight.
Seven of his 19 wins were over debutees.Nine were over men with losing records!
Ko percentages are very often misleading!
NB I never said he would be ko'd by powerful punchers.I said he met very few big hitters, and no top drawer ones.

 

Marciano was often off balance and sometimes fell over when he missed a punch ,lets not try and make him into some dancing master!

 

I'm aware Moore beat them.
Foreman annihilated Frazier ,and Norton but lost to Ali.
I'd give Marciano credit for beating big prime heavyweights of class which he never did.
I'm asking the forum for their opinions, not foisting mine on them.

 

Valdes beating Charles puts him in the frame,imo.Charles beating 180lbs Satterfield got him his shot against Marciano.
Comeback Louis was kept away from the best of the big guys particularly the punchers.

 

Layne's only name ko was Satterfield who was often stopped.Satterfield stopped a teenage last minute sub in Williams.
Layne never dropped Walcott.
Moore's Mother said he was a 41.I guess she would know.

Moore beat Valdes and Besmanoff , but he didn't stop Valdes.Louis stopped Walcott in 47, he fought Marciano in51!

Savold was tko'd and he was as far past it as Louis.

It means Mathews never proved himself a puncher at heavyweight!

Correction, Williams was 20 and Louis did ko Savold.

 

Williams was a last minute substitute.

Layne did not knockdown Walcott.
Walcott was penalized in the 8th round for a foul back-hand blow.

"Amidst wild cheering, blood-smeared Rex Layne of Utah established himself as a heavyweight challenger tonight by winning an upset 10 round decision over ex-challenger Jersey Joe Walcott in MSG. Layne, Lewiston, Utah, forced the fighting in every round and gave the 36 year old Walcott a thorough trouncing, despite the fact that Rex was handicapped by blood from cuts near his left eye as early as the first round. Layne surprised the fans with his aggressiveness and the explosiveness of his punche which knocked Joe into the ropes several times. Layne, only 22, was bleeding so badly from his left eye in the closing sessions that Dr. Vincent Nardiello of the NY Boxing Commission's staff examined the wounds after the 8th and 9th rounds, but he permitted the bout to continue. There were no knockdowns." -United Press


Moore said he was 39,his Mother said he was 41.She had no reason to lie Moore obviously would have!
Here is Moore's date of birth Dec13th 1913.
He fought Marciano onSep 21st 1955
That makes him 41!
Wikipedia
Archie Moore (born Archibald Lee Wright; December 13, 1913 – December 9, 1998)
From IMDP
Archie Moore(1913-1998)

Brittanica
Archie Moore DOB Dec 13th 1913.


Williams was 20 and Louis did ko Savold . Unlike you I can admit when I am wrong!

You are probably the most objectionable and ignorant
poster on this forum.Congratulations you have won a prize!

 

Very likely!