Clinching needs to be penalized harder to make it fair for shorter fighters

Clinching should be outlawed and instantly penalised unless the fighter is badly buzzed and looking to find his feet. That's the only time it's acceptable. Fighters who use clinching to shut down inside fighting are disgusting cucks and need a good uppercut to the balls for their repulsive ways. Wladimir Clinchko was the worst offender here, but lots of fighters in the lower weight classes now do it as well.

 

So kicking, elbowing and takedowns are acceptable are they? ****ing idiot.

Boxing has a clearly defined rulebook. Draping your sweaty moobs all over your opponent isn't in it.

 

Well said - whatever happened to the rules?

 

Well when when Francis chins AJ because AJ doesn't know how to clinch well then tough luck for him. Clinching part of the art of boxing FIGHTING, to deny that and point at a rulebook & cry is hilarious. Stick to amateur boxing but even there it's still employed.

 

Or maybe today's fighters need to learn to fight on the inside.

 

It's funny how a specific fanboys are trying to make excuses with other example of someone break the rules. This is essentially crying that a goal with a very tight offside is disallowed, and someone trying to make a case that the goal should be allowed, just because in some other matches, the referee have made the mistake to allow goal from an offside position.

Same situation in here.
Rules are there for a reason.
And the main problem is the promotions again. As they are the ones picking the officials. And the big promotional companies like Queensberry and Matchroom are getting a huge pass on their fighters, oh let's say it, you have to beat them 10-2, to actually score a draw or win a very narrow decision, and there is cases like Josh Taylor vs. Jack Catterall, aka full robberies. Even Usyk - AJ both fights were bad. AJ won 3-4 rounds max, and every single judge somehow manage to score more rounds for AJ, where there was no way he won it.
Same for Fury - Ngannou. Referee somehow turns blind for Fury obvious holding, his deliberate elbow that should have been at least a 1-2 point deduct, a clear KD in the 7th round not given to Ngannou, and finally they rob him out of the clear win.

Or Dubois case against Lerena, where this a WBO(or whatever federation it was) a Championship(paper) fight, where there is 3 KD rules, and Dubois was KD 3 time, but somehow the corrupt referee forget about that rule, and the organization after the fight forget about it too. UK media forget about it too. Or the obvious "KO" that was after the bell, and multiple shot Dubois landed on Lerena after the bell.

Or how Fury is given 20+ seconds count every single time he is send to the canvas ?
Or how some people on here don't even know the rules?
Let me educate you:
Here’s are some, in which the notorious cheater Fury manage to break them all, but somehow referee turn a blind man when he is doing them.

• You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.
• You cannot hit with your head, shoulder, forearm, or elbow.
• You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand.
• You cannot punch your opponent's back, or the back of his head or neck ([url]rabbit punch[/url]), or on the kidneys ([url]kidney punch[/url]).
• You cannot throw a punch while holding on to the ropes to gain leverage.
• You can't hold your opponent and hit him at the same time, or duck so low that your head is below your opponent's belt line.
• When the referee breaks you from a clinch, you have to take a full step back; you cannot immediately hit your opponent--that's called "[url]hitting on the break[/url]" and is illegal

And when it comes to clinching:
3.38 The following acts shall not be permitted during a Contest:-
(a) hitting below the belt: (b) using the “pivot blow”: (c) hitting on the back of the head or neck: (d) kidney punching; (e) hitting with the open glove, the inside, or the butt or the back of the hand, or with the wrist or elbow; (f) holding, butting, or careless use of the head, shouldering, wrestling or roughing: (g) not trying; (h) persistently ducking below the waistline; (i) intentional falling without receiving a blow; (j) failing to break when so ordered, or striking or attempting to strike an opponent on the break; (k) deliberately striking an opponent when they are dropping to the floor or when they are down; (l) hitting an opponent after the termination of a round; (m) unsporting conduct; (n) any other conduct which a Referee may deem foul; (o) boxing whilst under the influence of a prohibted substance;

The bold ones are just few of the rules Fury is somehow getting a pass every single fight. And not just him. Dubois was going head first against Miller and was warned just 2 times, no single point deduct, where he should have been DQ just for that, as he continue to do so. He also lowblow Miller to death.

But he won, and people hates on Miller and no one wanted to say a goddamn thing about Dubois dirty cheating. I liked the kid, but since he start working with that piece of s**** Don Charles i just can't stand him. Charles is a well know dirty sc****.

 

Oh and once and for all to end the Dubois - Usyk debate:
Straight from the official rules page:
Fouls
A foul is an action by a boxer, identified by the referee, that does not meet the standard of a fair blow or the conduct of a responsible professional fighter. Fouls may include, but are not limited to, the following types of contact or acts:
1. Hitting an opponent below the navel or behind the ear;
2. Hitting an opponent who is knocked down;
3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other;
4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch;
4.1. Holding and hitting or pulling and hitting;
4.2.Holding or locking, on the opponent’s arm or head, or pushing an arm underneath the arm of the opponent;
5. Lying on, wrestling and throwing in the clinch;
5.1 Wrestling, kicking or roughing;
6. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes;
7. Butting with the head, shoulder, knee, elbow;
8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt or inside of the hand, or back of the hand, the elbow or the wrist;

9. Purposely falling down onto the canvas of the ring without being hit or for the purpose of avoiding a blow;

10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys;
11. Using the pivot blow (pivoting while throwing a punch) or the rabbit punch
(punches thrown to the back of the head and neck areas);

12. Jabbing the eyes with the thumb of the glove;
13. Use of abusive language;
14. Unsportsmanlike conduct causing injury to an opponent that does not meet the standard of a fair blow;

15. Hitting on the break;
16. Intentionally spitting out the mouthpiece;
17. Hitting on or out of the ropes;
18. Holding rope and hitting;
19. Biting/spitting;
20. Not following referee’s instructions;
21. Stepping on opponent;
22. Crouching below opponent’s belt;
23. Leaving neutral corner; and
24. Corner second shouting.


So you see Fury fanboys, and especially you little troll miniq, where you were posting clips with your complete ignorance, cause you don't even have an idea what a body punching is, trying to put a narrative that Usyk complains about a legal body punches, when the clips you were showing were kidney punches and hip ones. All of them ARE COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.

 

Oh and the long count that Fury very often receive and Fury fanboys always manage to cry, it's not a 10 seconds count, it's not a strict 10 seconds count, but the rule says otherwise, or at best it's a representative of 10 seconds, not 20+.

3.33 If a Boxer is “down” under the provisions of Regulation 3.32.1(a) they must return to the boxing ring unassisted within twenty seconds. In all other cases mentioned above, they must regain their feet unassisted within ten seconds. The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in their opinion they are able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.
And more:

• Knockdowns: A knockdown occurs when a boxer is knocked down by their opponent, touching the canvas with any part of their body other than their feet. The fighter has a count of ten seconds to stand back up and continue the fight.

Every single mention of the count is in seconds, and even within, not after.

 

Clinching isn't pretty or entertaining but that's how hurt fighters protect themselves, so I'm not sure how you could eliminate it. Sure some guys use it to play spoiler and it sucks but I'd think you'd have to try to find tactics to counter it. I've seen guys reject clinches before, it's tough but doable.

 

From the Tyson Fury Championship organization, aka WBC:

The WBC rules state that “13. Excessive holding the opponent or maintaining a clinch.” is a foul that technically could result in penalty or disqualification.
Funny how they are not enforced their own rules.

Boxing is a joke, because it's allow all of this cheating, and not follows it's own rules.

Just for example with MMA, which is way more brutal sport, but has clear rules:
The so call goat, has 1 loss, and it's due to DQ:

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Yesterday in the ONE Championship the former HW Champion Arjan Bhullar was DQ for timidity(aka he was way too passive) in the last round(aka the 3rd in that fight), just 50 seconds before the end of the fight.
He was also losing that fight, but Herb Dean followed the rules and DQ him.

So many times in MMA where there is eye poke or lowblow, even not deliberate the ref fully stops the match and make a warning.

But for that promotional companies should have zero words and power when it comes to officials. And Boxing needs a strong Governing Bodies. Which will never happen of course.

 

Ah and the media is one the big problems. It's because of the mainstream. Now UK and USA is the king of boxing and the boxers from this countries get an auto pass.
Somehow never heard anyone calls for Fury dirty cheating tactics. Yet Klitschko was a pain in the *** for all of the British commentators.
There is not a match where they didn't complain about it, even if there was close to none clinching in this fights.
But somehow they manage to miss Fury dirty tactics over the year. Somehow they forget Fury is a dirty PED cheater. And somehow none of the media not even once mention how the heck Dubois won the Lerena fight and the corruption in that fight.

 

Just look how useless the Okoliepus was the moment a referee actually enforced the rules - he had nothing left the moment his constant fouling was penalized.

Would Fury, among others, be the same? Quite possibly.

 

Fury is a massive cheat. Half his success comes from cheating.

 

Clinching in boxing a lost art. Fighters should train to fight out of the clinch instead of just waiting for the refs to steps in and doing nothing.