Anthony Joshua vs. Filip Hrgovic this summer?

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Zhang hadn't beaten a single fighter in the top 200 at the time that Hrgovic fought him.

    Avoided fighters are a myth.
    Guys who don't want dangerous fights are common, guys who value themselves too highly are common - which is Hrgovic?
     
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  2. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Have no idea why Hrgovic carrer is one big waiting.
    He should not belive that he will face Joshua.
    He should take opportunity and fight with one of this 6 name offer from Saudis.

    He wasting not only time but also his potential because if You stay inactive You dont make progress. Its actually opposite.

    He got big chance to become best /one of the best Hw after this Wilder/Fury/Joshua and Usyk but it can happend that when he step up for big fight he paid for his lack of expirience

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  3. UKDweller

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    Yeah, neither did Hrgovic, now they are both top 5, and for a reason they were avoided.

    Yeah, you must be Wilder fan xD

    Hrgovic is dangerous fighter, who was rejected by everyone, and called out everyone.

    Now you can say - Dubois and Anderson called him out? But now he is in position to refuse them.
     
  4. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    If the IBF is stripped from the Usyk/Fury winner I'd much rather Zhang/Parker fight Joshua for it.

    Hrgovic simply doesn't deserve it.
     
  5. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hrgovic will prove that he is the best, he will stop Usyk if they fight...
     
  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    They're both claimed as top 5 - neither is very well proven.

    Zhang at least beat a fringe contender in Joyce - Hrgovic 50/50 with Zhang isn't enough to reply justify top 10 at all.

    :lol::lol:

    Well I've been accused of some pretty stupid things over the years... But given how I've never rated Wilder and often been called a hater for criticising his dreadful resume... Well, that's just funny.

    Wilder is a classic example of both not caring that everyone knows you're ducking (Whyte) and pricing yourself out of a fight so you don't have to admit you're ducking (Joshua).

    The avoided fighter is 100% a myth.

    Calling people out that you have no intention of fighting is a classic tactic to try and raise profile without risking losing.

    To use your favourite (lol) example... Why do you think Wilder kept pretending he wanted to fight Joshua whilst making sure it never happened?
    Because Joshua's profile and PPV sells were orders or magnitude better and Wilder wanted to get more money without having to fight him (because he'd have lost and he knew it, IMHO).

    Considering Dubois has a far bigger profile and would boost Hrgovic resume - no, he's nowhere near big enough to be ducking DDD.

    Anderson is less proven and less known (he hasn't had a title fight, or fought any legit contenders), maybe there's a justification for not seeing the value in that fight... Then again, maybe the money just doesn't add up one way or the other.
     
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  7. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    He'd have to actually agree to fight someone who's proven to be decent first.

    There's no way he beats Usyk, let alone stops him - there's absolutely no reason to think he'd get anywhere near.
     
  8. UKDweller

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    A lot of negativity for a guy who said Wilder will beat Parker, and I can guess you were not a minority like I was who bet on Usyk to beat Joshua. I won 50 dollars xD.

    Negative nancy
     
  9. UKDweller

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    That is all he wants, let him in with likes of Joshua and Fury. If he deosnt have what it takes then he is out for good.

    Problem is for 6 years he has not been getting opponents.
     
  10. BubblesUK

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    This will sound persnickety...

    But no, not quite.

    That is all he says he wants.

    We don't know whether that's what he really wants, or if he's just saying it to get a bigger name and make more money against bums.

    Then for 6 years he's been doing something wrong.

    Hiring the wrong agents - agents who either can't or won't get him those fights?
    Either because they lack the ability? Or they don't believe in him and won't feed him away yet? Or he's telling them to demand unrealistic money and they don't advise him to ask the right amount?

    Or maybe they're doing exactly what he wants - and he doesn't really want the tough fights.

    There's lots of possibilities...
    But what is NOT plausible is the idea that nobody proved in the top 50 (remember, Zhang wasn't when they fought) would dare to fight him.
    I mean, seriously?
    And especially when you remember there's guys in there who would fight anyone, guys like Chisora who would even take fights he knew he'd lose (Usyk, Fury-3) - we're supposed to believe there's not a single fight that's possible to make during that time?!
     
  11. Bokaj

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    Very much seems.like the logical fight if Joshua wins on Friday and there is a rematch between Fury and Usyk.

    Definitely the fight I want in that scenario.

    But, the best laid plans and all that...
     
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  12. BubblesUK

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    That's nonsense - I always thought Parker at his best would beat Wilder at his best. But Parker is very definitely inconsistent, and more than capable of losing too.

    Making claims like that is all well and good... But when you're being completely illogical, it's unlikely to get too many people to back your POV.