Ted 'Kid' Lewis vs. Henry Armstrong

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Lewis was a freak of nature, arguably beating immeasurable talent like Benny Leonard and Mike Gibbons. How will Hank do? How would the fight play out?
     
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  2. HomicideHank

    HomicideHank I believe in the transmigration of souls Full Member

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    Too tough to call. This is a pick 'em.
    If I had a gun to my head I would say Armstrong by SD
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    At 147 Lewis.
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree.
     
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  5. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    For several years Armstrong was invincible. Too aggressive, too much energy and stamina.
    Threw too many punches and wore guys out. If we're talking about those prime years, roughly 1937-39, Armstrong wins by TKO.
     
  6. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I knew a guy who defeated Henry Armstrong in 1942 when Hank was just beginning to slip a little. "Cowboy" Reuben Shank was from Colorado east of Denver where I spent 40 years. Shank defeated Fritzie Zivic, too. I met him 40 years later when he was too punchy to speak intelligibly. Nice fella. He took a beating in 1947 that was so brutal the Colorado Boxing Commission revoked his boxing license. In his later years he was a street sweeper for Denver Public Works. Has any of you heard of him?
     
  7. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haven't heard of him until now, but thank you for sharing that, New!
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Never before now, but reading his record he looks to be a handy fighter. Beating Armstrong, Zivic and Jannazzo is nothing to smirk at.
     
  9. Woller1

    Woller1 Member Full Member

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    Are you trying to say that you simply dont know.
     
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  10. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toughest one to call we've had on here for ages. Lewis and Armstrong are, basically, the same Fighter. Astonishing energy levels, all out aggression and no little power.

    Lewis's best weight was Welter whereas Hank was never natural there, certainly not at his peak. I'd take Ted at 147 but Hank at Lightweight.
     
  11. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    Cowboy Reuben Shank was a rugged, crude, rawboned white welterweight from the West. His surprise win over Henry Armstrong propelled him to a shot at Madison Square Garden against Ray Robinson. The fight was scheduled for ten rounds. It lasted two. Shank never fought in the Garden again but continued fighting against top talent. In 1944 he decisioned Artie Levine, the slugger who put Sugar Ray's lights out in the middle rounds of a 10-rounder, according to Ray, himself. Shank split two fights with Fritzie Zivic, another fighter Don Dunphy would call a rough customer. Then in 1946 he suddenly embarked on a string of defeats ending in two 10-round decision losses to Fred Apostoli, a vaunted body puncher. In the wings waited Mel Brown of Minneapolis, whose last knockout victim it took 15 minutes to revive. Now a middleweight, Reuben Shank fared worse, as the record shows. He was near death for 12 hours from a "severe head injury sustained during this bout".
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Good stuff man!
     
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  13. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This thread keeps getting better and better!! Thanks again, New!!!