Anthony Joshua vs. Francis Ngannou •

A close fight is not a robbery. Getting dropped doesn't mean you get the decision in a 10 round fight. 10 rounds each of them scored.

 

Do Glory kickboxers score knockouts more often? I'm not sure that they do.

And I wouldn't say I'm a pure boxing fan- I'm a martial arts fan in general. My favorite combat sport and one of my favorite martial arts is boxing. I say all of this as someone who has gotten submitted and choked by a wrestler/BJJ guy.

I think in street fights (It seems silly to talk about street fights at all) But I think in street fights mostly it's punching that is used. You don't see a lot of roundhouse kicks effectively used in street fights. Perhaps you could see a few low kicks but even that seems quite rare. I don't know if intentionally going to the ground would be smart in a street fight either and I've heard several people say exactly that. I also know that boxers have been defending themselves outside of the ring for a hundred years. Boxers just like every other martial artist in a street fight is not bound by the rules. And boxers have a martial mindset too. They understand striking with the elbow. They understand head butts and they understand hitting with the knee. Some of these guys were very rough characters before the sport of boxing. I remember Rocky Marciano saying that Tony Galento was one of the roughest and toughest street fighters ever. But he wasn't overly refined in the ring. If I'm not mistaken Muhammad Ali said something similar about Chuck Wepner.

I don't think any pure stylist will have a great amount of success in MMA these days. But these ridiculous claims like such and such MMA champion would beat every single boxer in history forever It's just BS. It's just hype it's just propaganda.

 

So lets say you put Fury, AJ or Usyk into that Glory tournament tomorrow, how far do you think they get?


Btw regarding the UFC being all hype. Just compare this amateur hour **** show thats going on right now to the UFC card tomorrow and it should be pretty evident why MMA has gained so much momentum lol.

 

I didn't say anything necessarily about a pure boxer going into kickboxing (although that too has also been done). I said boxing produces more knockouts then kickboxing does if I'm not mistaken.


Also, the way a show is produced or put on has nothing to do with the actual combat. UFC is a promotion. Boxing is NOT one single unified promotion.

I understand that the waiting is annoying and I'm anxious as well but they probably are spacing it out because they're waiting for more of the Americans on the east coast to get home from work.


*UFC is not ALL hype. But they rightfully hype up their fighters and use propaganda and a good portion of the fan base seems to buy into it hook line and sinker rather than any critical thinking.

 

It's hard to take a Wing Chun guy seriously. You may like Boxing more, or you may like MMA more, but any sensible person knows that Wing Chun is worthless.

 

none of this matters, a boxer isn't going to stop a takedown with punches.

A boxer has to bank on an mma fighter being a **** and trying to bang on the feet to prove something.

I think now you're moving the goal post and using old references from a time where mma didn't exist and trying to make a perception of boxers being capable street fighters.

They are capable against the untrained who have no grappling or striking defenses. Any mma champion will have spent plenty of times knowing how to move out of range from punches and use their whole body to dismantle the boxer.

You might as well now bring up body guards, multiple attackers, and guns, to just say street fighting and mma is not real life violence. The andrew tate argument. it's all coping mechanism.

You can argue all day, you'll never be able to provide how a boxer can sprawl a takedown and get back up to his feet against a wrestler without using another odd reference, like biting, knife attacks, friend stomps on you, all arguments that take the conversation away from 1 vs 1 contest.

 

Boxers have always been capable street fighters. And what would MMA fighters generally use in a street fight? Umm punches? You're full of it.

Who's going to sprawl in a street fight anyway? Lol laughably dull. No blue mat underneath you generally speaking.

I forgot that MMA champions are bulletproof superheros- a cross between James Bond, Bruce Lee and Robocop.

 

If a boxer has serviceable takedown defense they would likely be fine. How much time it would take a boxer to acquire that is a different discussion there isn't a clear answer too. But that one thing would make boxers viable as MMA fighters. Not superior or dominant but viable.

 

Lol

 

As I said, the fight with Fury was a pure show, Fury could have beaten Ngannou at any moment, Joshua simply didn't participate in the show and did what a top boxer should do against a beginner, he simply "killed" him in two rounds.

 

It went exactly as i said. You can search for my quotes... KO2

 

Didn't think you could do it.

Boy was I wrong.


What a punch

 

AJ is definitely reading and receiving your apology. Im not sure he will forgive you after you hurt him so much by not believing in him, but I'm sure he feels vindicated

What a man you are to apologize directly to AJ like this

We all know how upset he was about you not believing he will win so this apology will mean a lot coming from you

You're a real man

 

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