Boxing Power and MMA Power are not the same

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Joeywill, Mar 10, 2024.


  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Youre delusional. The Fury vs Ngannou fight wasnt about Ngannou being good it was about Fury being awful. He never looked that bad vs a rated opponent. Fury wouldnt beat anyone with a name on the night he fought in Ngannou and neither would Ngannou. Despite that Fury still beat Ngannou cause Ngannou is a novice boxer
     
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  2. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    laughable. No Ngannou has zero future in boxing and should retire now before he seriously gets hurt. He already made his money by fooling the public into thinking he had a legit shot vs world opposition (No Fury in that condition is not world opposition). No reason for Ngannou to continue hes already pulled off the greatest heist in boxing history next to Mcgreggor
     
  3. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    as i said i really dont care if he does. He’s the first guy to legit beat fury which 30 other boxers could not do. He deserves his pay days. A boxer not being in condition is no excuse, that says more how easy boxing is because he’s looked like homer simpson and dominated that way for years. Ngannou was 37 and a novice according to you and still beat your #1 guy. i could take up boxing tomorrow and beat fury too?
     
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    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you live in fantasy land. you also ignored the other video’s because they disprove your whole theory. Boxers come to mma all the time and get beat.

    Heck even a novice like ksi almost beat Tommy fury, and Ngannou another novice beat tyson. Anyone can train to be a boxer and beat the snot out of lifetime boxers.
     
  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didnt beat Fury and if anyone had a strong case for beating Fury it would be McDermott, not Ngannou.

    Its not excuse for Fury. Conditioning is huge in boxing. If a fighter is not in proper condition he wll have a tough time, even if hes fighting someone who is way less than him normally but is in good condition.

    Usyk is number 1 right now and pretty clearly unless Fury beats him.

    Congrats to Ngannou on getting his paydays. Great story.
     
  6. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didnt have time to watch the other videos. Thats why I didn't mention it.

    Tommy Fury is not a top level boxer. He had no amateur career and is a celebrity boxer.

    Once again Ngannou didnt beat Fury. He just didnt do enough. I gave him 3 rounds out of 10. Maybe you could have given him 4.
     
  7. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    that is nice of you to score it, but the actual judges had Ngannou win one and one judge had fury 1+

    The illegal elbow should have put Fury under the scoring by -1 for the illegal elbow, Ngannou was the rightful winner.

    he still trained and groomed early for boxing. had a world champion brother.

    here's the thing i'm just gas lighting you. I dont actually believe a novice can beat real boxers.

    I just think you have a bad perception of a novice. Ngannou is just a decent hw. Not good or great, but Solid.

    The boxing purist just dont want to admit it, and they are making it seem every boxer is AJ and has the same right hand. As we saw in the fury fight, not all boxers can ko francis.
     
  8. Mark Anthony

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    Kicks are more powerful than punches, Mayorga was really out of shape and Vitali was a kickboxer when he got knocked out, he hadn`t trained in boxing yet by a boxing trainer.
     
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    Fury is overrated and was out of shape what pont are you trying to make?
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    TERENCE CRAWFORD
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    NAOYA INOUE
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    OLEKSANDR USYK
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    COUNTRY: UKRAINE
    21-0-0 (14 KOS)
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  10. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    both Klitchkos did boxing early..

    the whole point is that Vitali almost never got sparked in boxing but had his lights put out by a average tkd guy.

    The myth that boxers have better chin is bs. All combat sports have the same chin resistance by average. boxers aren’t born from the womb having strong chins. the op lacks simple common knowledge, its probably a troll thread.
    everyone has a story or an excuse.

    Ngganou is 37
    It was his debut
    he came off an injury repair and was less active than Fury.

    etc etc..

    Jon Jones doing coke and partying still would kill every boxer in the ufc. And plenty of strikers in the ufc would head kick and ko a boxer. The point is that op is a clown.​
     
  11. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree that Ngannou is decent. He's probably journeyman level. I don't think he can beat anyone legit
     
  12. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxers have better chin due to their built up resistance. The main difference is the punching power, not chin. Ngannou has never been hit like he was vs Joshua in the UFC.

    As far as the Jon Jones point goes there's a good chance he'd get knocked out if he fought a boxer and didn't take it seriously even in MMA. 1 punch from a top heavyweight boxer and it can all be over and unlike boxing there's no 10 count
     
  13. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How can anyone say that Fury took the Ngannou fight seriously? He had a fight with Usyk scheduled for 6 weeks later. Who does that in modern day boxing ?
     
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  14. Mark Anthony

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    You need a good chin to make it to the top in boxing, weak chins are found out quicker in the boxing world than in the MMA world and Vitali was taken out by a kick, punches aren`t as powerful as kicks.
     
  15. Mark Anthony

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    Boxers have no take down defense you saw what Jones did to a kick boxer like Gane.
     
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