Joe Frazier does not beat AJ and you can't convince any reasonable person otherwise

Frazier was great for his time, but he’d stand no chance at all in today’s era of monsters.

 

I don’t think Fraizer was very well equipped for big men. I mean he did beat Buster Mathis but that was a very long drawn out fight. Fraizer wasn’t very strong (in terms of muscular strength not power) and would be at risk of being pushed around. Foreman pushed him around and beat him bad enough it’s hard to imagine beating him without a gun.

on the other man Andy Ruiz beat AJ and he kinda had a poor man’s (crippling third world poverty poor) Fraizer style. Joe had very good power and would keep trying unless the fight got stopped.

so maybe

 

The difference is that Frazier actually gets up from the knockdowns and punishes AJ harder than Ruiz did.

 

I have to think that Frazier's work rate and constant pressure would be very troubling for Anthony Joshua. And Joe Frazier's head was not stationary the way Ngannou's is. I will have to go with Joe Frazier in this match up.

 

Bending how he does over his left foot Id be very worried about AJ’s right hand. He's a lot bigger, stronger and better schooled then Foreman.

 

Frazier's "pressure tactics" worked for Ali once. The tactic failed twice.
From Holmes onwards (1988 Tyson onwards) Frazier H2H loses.

 

Joshua also gets a lot of power on his uppercut, which might be more of a problem for Frazier than the straight right that KO'd Ngannou.

Yes, if AJ lands flush, that would be a big problem for Frazier. I can see a scenario where Joshua nails him early, and it ends up another Foreman situation where Joe is making snow angels all over the canvas. Not nearly as confident in an AJ victory as you though. Joshua has been hurt and stopped by lesser fighters, and Joe has beaten better.

This is asking an awful lot of Joe though. The size and strength deficits would be enormous in this fight. I'd lean AJ in this, but wouldn't risk a whole lot of money on it.

 

AJ beats 0-1 non boxer and suddenly the Ruiz and Usyk fights didn’t happen and he one punch knocks out a guy who was never one punch KO’d in his career.

 

Lol imagine equating a 38 year old MMA fighter to a top ten ATG.

 

Less immediately obvious will be that it’s asking an awful lot of Joshua to make up the heart & conditioning disadvantage.

 

Could any of em really beat the beasts of today?
Ali, Frazier, Foreman... Can you imagine them against AJ.. Good god, I dread to think

 

It's time to make a series of size (doesn't) matter, threads because I swear the topic is always watered dowed, grossly simplified, or misunderstood. It does matters; it matters in ways people don't exactly understand.

Most of this opinions are pretty much a projection of posters inability to conceive beating a hard puncher or a bigger man, in spite of boxing being extremely multilayered and actually providing a set of rules under which smaller operators can fight and thrive. Much like in Sumo the mawashi (the belt) provides a leverage for much smaller rikishi to overcome the giants, so do the rules of boxing create an environment for smaller fighters to work with, especially with more strict referee.

 

And Ruiz is 6ft or so, you bums.

 

I'm not sure AJ is stronger than Foreman.